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[quote user="zardoz"] <p>In an average year, a typical coal plant generates: </p><li>3,700,000 tons of carbon dioxide (CO2), the primary human cause of global warming--as much carbon dioxide as cutting down 161 million trees.</li><p>[/quote]</p><p>Okay, let's stop right there. If you really want "the primary <em>human</em> cause of global warming", look no further than your average large city. The Urban Heat Island effect can raise observed surface temperatures by as much as 7 degrees F. That is the only empirical, measurable human caused temperature effect. There is no empirical evidence that anthropogenic CO2 has any causal effect on global temperatures, as it amounts to less than 1/10 of 1% of the entire greenhouse effect <em>potential</em>.</p><p>And for the record, cutting down old growth trees and replacing them with new trees reduces the terrestrial release of greenhouse gases. Not sure if that's what you meant, but there it is for clarification.</p><p>Keep in mind, I'm not arguing the point that combusting coal releases CO2. I'm saying it is wrong to demonize CO2 in the first place. CO2 is not a pollutant, never has been, never will be, and does not "cause" global warming despite what the Supreme Court tries to legislate from the bench. Remember, it is global warming that is causing an increase in atmospheric CO2, and man's CO2 contributions pale in comparison.</p><p>Now, the rest of this......</p><p>[quote]</p><li>10,000 tons of sulfur dioxide (SO2), which causes acid rain that damages forests, lakes, and buildings, and forms small airborne particles that can penetrate deep into lungs.<br /></li><li>500 tons of small airborne particles, which can cause chronic bronchitis, aggravated asthma, and premature death, as well as haze obstructing visibility.<br /></li><li>10,200 tons of nitrogen oxide (NOx), as much as would be emitted by half a million late-model cars. NOx leads to formation of ozone (smog) which inflames the lungs, burning through lung tissue making people more susceptible to respiratory illness.<br /></li><li>720 tons of carbon monoxide (CO), which causes headaches and place additional stress on people with heart disease.<br /></li><li>220 tons of hydrocarbons, volatile organic compounds (VOC), which form ozone.<br /></li><li><font color="#800000">170 pounds of mercury, where just 1/70th of a teaspoon deposited on a 25-acre lake can make the fish unsafe to eat.<br /></font></li><li>225 pounds of arsenic, which will cause cancer in one out of 100 people who drink water containing 50 parts per billion.<br /></li><li>114 pounds of lead, 4 pounds of cadmium, other toxic heavy metals, and <font color="#800000">trace amounts of uranium.</font></li><p><font color="#800000">[/quote]</font></p><p><font color="#000000">......is technically true in terms of the numbers given, but only for the older pulverized coal fired power plants, and the subsequent claims attached to some of the elements listed are fraudulent. There is no empirical evidence to suggest arsenic levels of 50 parts per billion will cause one out of 100 to get cancer, nor is there any empirical evidence that 1/70 of a teaspoon of mercury in a 25 acre lake will make fish unsafe to eat. And if all such coal fired power plants were converted to IGCC (gasification), then the only element emitted in any significance is CO2, and as I explained CO2 is not a pollutant........</font></p><p>Other items are taken way out of context. For example, biodiesel made from vegetable oils actually releases 11% more NOx than regular diesel refined from oil, and 20% more NOx than synthetic diesel derived from coal via the Fischer-Tropse method. So, the same people who are demonizing coal are usually the same people promoting biodiesel. Well, is NOx a concern or not? Because if it is then biodiesel should be your last option!</p><p>Since I'm on the subject, I do favor aggressive development of coal to liquids technology as a replacement for "manipulatable" sources of foreign oil. Such is probably the only thing that will save the railroads from bankruptcy if coal fired power generation is subsequently banned due to these phony concerns about global warming. Remember, CTL allows the producer to shift the responsibility of the so-called "carbon footprint" from the plant to the vehicle tailpipe. Plus, as much as the left in this country wants to force utilities to shift to non-hydrocarbon power generation, they would have a much harder time politically trying to get folks to convert to non-hydrocarbon powered autos.</p><p>FYI - The groundbreaking British documentary entitled <strong><u>The Great Global Warming Swindle </u></strong>is due to be released to DVD. Since it is unlikely our taxpayer supported PBS network will have the kahuna's to show this film, you'll all have to order this film to see the real story behind this GW sham.</p><p><a href="http://www.greatglobalwarmingswindle.com/">http://www.greatglobalwarmingswindle.com/</a></p><p><a href="http://www.greatglobalwarmingswindle.com/dvd.html">http://www.greatglobalwarmingswindle.com/dvd.html</a></p><p> </p>
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