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michaelstevens
Member since
September 2003
From: Philadelphia
440 posts
Fast Freight/Fast Ships
Posted by
michaelstevens
on Tuesday, December 23, 2003 1:13 PM
[8D]
I thought you all might be interested in this upcoming new development for (international) intermodal, where they are talking about
scheduled
interchanges between trains and the future "fast ships" !
[:)]
"http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/business/7546219.htm"
British Mike in Philly
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CSSHEGEWISCH
Member since
March 2016
From: Burbank IL (near Clearing)
13,540 posts
Posted by
CSSHEGEWISCH
on Wednesday, December 24, 2003 5:56 AM
The concept looks interesting on paper but there's a big jump from engineering on paper and scale models to full-size operation. Fuel costs are an obvious consideration that seem to have been glossed over.
Scheduled ship runs are not a new idea and actually go back to at least the 1820's, although not quite as precise as railroading.
The daily commute is part of everyday life but I get two rides a day out of it. Paul
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coalminer3
Member since
January 2001
From: WV
1,251 posts
Posted by
coalminer3
on Wednesday, December 24, 2003 8:24 AM
In the day, these were called "packet" boats. Not only were they transoceanic, but also coastwise. It's not a new idea to coordinate trains with ships; think back to the "silk trains" on the Great Northern. Also, you will see other types of shipments such as export coal coordinated with ship loading.
work safe
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TH&B
Member since
July 2003
964 posts
Posted by
TH&B
on Wednesday, December 24, 2003 12:52 PM
Fuel is a BIG facter, many ship captains will often not increase boat speed even by one knot just because of fuel conservation. Ships are also extremely affected by the weather on the oceans, more so then the railway. My friend had a shipment by boat from obersees and the boat had an emergency problem where it had to go in dry dock where it was for a few weeks. Schedualed boats?... I'm not against it so go for it, see what happens.
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TH&B
Member since
July 2003
964 posts
Posted by
TH&B
on Wednesday, December 24, 2003 12:54 PM
Fuel is a BIG facter, many ship captains will often not increase boat speed even by one knot just because of fuel conservation. Ships are also extremely affected by the weather on the oceans, more so then the railway. My friend had a shipment by boat from obersees and the boat had an emergency problem where it had to go in dry dock where it was for a few weeks. Schedualed boats?... I'm not against it so go for it, see what happens.
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mudchicken
Member since
December 2001
From: Denver / La Junta
10,820 posts
Posted by
mudchicken
on Wednesday, December 24, 2003 3:51 PM
Odd, Maersk and Hanjin have been doing this since the '80s. Most railroad intermodal trains are already geared to show up just in time. At the port of Long Beach (accross the channel from the original Queen Mary), the railroads are also given blocks of time when they are allowed to load on the dock loop tracks.....You got fined if you overstayed your loading period.
Mudchicken Nothing is worth taking the risk of losing a life over. Come home tonight in the same condition that you left home this morning in. Safety begins with ME.... cinscocom-west
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