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Hi - the first group of production hi-levels had a 1956 build date. Later groups were built in 1963 and 1964. Hope that helps, Art
Hi Will - Agree with Andy's comment that it very much depends on the particular train/car in the Amtrak era. At least one of the ex-SCL (nee-SAL) 3340-series observations that was rehabbed by Amtrak had a backlit Amtrak logo tailsign on it and I saw this in use on the SP Coast Line in late August 1972. Other cars from that same series (as used out of Chicago on the "City of New Orleans", etc.) did not have the Amtrak logo tailsign. Similarly, some of the ex-BN (nee-CB&Q) observations
I think there's also the matter of conformance with APTA PRESS standards and the latest FRA crashworthiness requirements that have seen the Budd cab cars superseded by the Nippon Sharyo cars on all lines. I see Budd cab cars in the middle of some Metra trains (as recently as last week), but others have obviously had the cab windows blocked over and the side marker lamps removed. Hope this helps! Art
No, they crossed Linden to the east of the CRT/CTA station and terminal. On PROW with the station on the north side of Linden, IIRC. Then the line curved to the west to enter the in-street trackage on Greenleaf Avenue that Dave and the others have already mentioned. Hope this helps, Art
Hi Tom - Sitting in downtown Chicago as I type this. Agreed, in looking at the NSRM site, they have some wonderful locos and rolling stock in their collection! Have sent a few of the scans to NSRM and they've been most helpful already. Have a few more car shots to send them and then will scan some V&T train and loco shots which were taken on May 3, 1949, but otherwise no back-up data on them. Thanks again for all your help with this - have a great weekend! Art
Hi Tom - Yes, looked at the NV State RR Museum site last night and saw many of the cars that were in the group photographed in the UP yard in June 1950. The baggage car lettered for CStPM&O looks to be ex-V&T 21 (I), while the water car lettered as UPRR 2 should be the ex-V&T 2. Thanks again for all the great info! I'm going to contact the museum and see if they'd be interested in using any scans of these images on their site, as well as asking if they can help ID the lineage
Hi Tom - Thanks very much for the information, I really appreciate knowing these details! Just the cars were in the UP yard when Ira shot them, none of the locos. The Santa Fe cars were very distinctive with that odd clerestory arrangement they had, so they stand out right away! Agreed that these cars would have had little or no chance of making it to today had they not had the movie career. Art
Have some slides shot at the UP-East LA yards in June 1950 of a number of old cars used in various movies - Santa Fe open platform coaches (no numbers on them) - perhaps used in "The Harvey Girls" (MGM, 1946)?; a number of cars lettered for "Nebraska & Pacific" (used in the 1948 "Whispering Smith" movie, released by Universal?) - various types and numbers, including open platform coach 590, open platform combine 426, work car 1092 and box car 1218; a number of cars
They could have also driven on Lake Shore Drive or another street near the Weldon Yard at 18th Street. That has a fair number of tracks in it, plus with the mainlines going around the perimeter of the yard. Art
"63rd Lower Yard" is on what used to be called the "Jackson Park Branch" of the CTA. In today's parlance its the "East 63rd Branch" of the Green Line. The Lower Yard is on the south side of 63rd to the west of Calumet Avenue. There's no connection between the Green Line and the C&NW (UP) along Lake Street. The connection that came off the "L" structure to the east of the Pulaski/Lake station, went down to grade level to provide access to the old
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