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12-04-2007 2:31 PM In reply to
 

Cleaned up the dried 30+ year old glue from the card stock and the structure. Using an X-acto knife I gingerly cut the seam where the cardstock roof material met with the metal roofing supports. Some areas had a heavy application of what appers to have been Elmers while glue. The dried glue required much work to be removed without damaging either the cardstock or the roof supports. A very thin layer of the cardstock was compromised to remove the dried glue, this was necessary in order to ensure a tight fit once the roof is re-attached with magnets. The roof will be removable for interior viewing opportunities and to get a better view of the interior details.

 

Card stock roof turned over.

Remove dried on glue with X-acto knife.

Cleaned up roundhouse structure.

Another view of the roundhouse.

 

Added simulated tar roof shingles to office roof with measured and cut masking tape. Using a technique I learn awhile ago, I used strips of masking tape and measured them to a scale 2' width. Once the lengths were cut I measured and cut a shingle flap cut every scale 3'. The next step will be to paint and weather the roof to create a simulated tar shingle roof.

 

Measured and cut masking tape.

Masking tape strips applied to office roof.

Roof on office section of roundhouse.
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Roof on office section of roundhouse.
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Offline SilverSpike
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Re: Roundtable and Roundhouse Renovations - Update!

Roundhouse roof removal and cleanup ~ Sunday, December 2, 2007


Removed the cardstock roof from the roundhouse subroofing structure.



Roundhouse ready to remove the roof.

Roundhouse upside down.

Roof removed and roundhouse upright.

Roof unattached from roundhouse.

    
12-04-2007 5:36 PM In reply to
Offline topcopdoc
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Re: Roundtable and Roundhouse Renovations - Update!

Fantastic job SilverSpike. I am watching closely since I will be starting my turntable/roundhouse after the holidays. I don't think I will be buying ten inspection pits at $16.50 each. I guess I will build them myself.

I am doing a lot of thinking on the elevations for roundhouse floor so it will line up with the outside yard and turntable height. I might try the Stryene strips.

Keep up the good work, Doc 

12-05-2007 7:51 AM In reply to
Offline SilverSpike
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Re: Roundtable and Roundhouse Renovations - Update!

Topcopdoc,

Glad you like the series. My next steps will be to paint and weather the roof once all the masking tape shingles are applied to all the roof sections. Then I am going to clean and re-paint the roundhouse structure and then weather it also. The plan is to attach the strip magnets to the underside of the roofing cardstock so that it will keep a relative tight grip to the structure, but also be able to be lifted off for better interior and detail viewing.

Then I will start building all the little details that will surround the interior of the structure and exterior of the surrounding grounds.

Cheers,

Ryan

12-05-2007 8:35 AM In reply to
Offline TA462
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Re: Roundtable and Roundhouse Renovations - Update!

Silver Spike, I too have been following your progress as well.  I'll be starting my own roundhouse soon and will be adding the same inspection pits you have.
12-05-2007 10:49 AM In reply to
Offline SilverSpike
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Re: Roundtable and Roundhouse Renovations - Update!

Dave,

The Stewart Hobbies Inspection Pits are in stock again at Walther's. When I purchased my 6 awhile ago that depleated the then current supply, glad to see that they have some more in stock again.

Thanks for the comments, and I will continue to post updates both here and on my website too. Here is the link to my Roundtable and Roundhouse Renovation page.

Cheers,

Ryan

12-05-2007 10:52 AM In reply to
Offline pcarrell
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Re: Roundtable and Roundhouse Renovations - Update!

Ryan,

This is really turning out to be quite the impressive project!  Really nice!

12-06-2007 12:36 PM In reply to
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Re: Roundtable and Roundhouse Renovations - Update!

Thanks Philip!

Here is an initial interior image I took with the roof removed and the POV from outside one of the windows. Note: the window frames and panes have been removed for renovations.

Cheers,

Ryan

12-07-2007 3:17 PM In reply to
Offline SilverSpike
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Re: Roundtable and Roundhouse Renovations - Update!

Worked on creating some window frame options for the roundhouse and also put an initial coat of paint on the roundhouse office roof. Here are the results of a few hours time spent on the renovation today. Please tell me what window pane option you think looks the best!

Window frame options and selections ~ Friday, December 7, 2007


Created an Excel spreadsheet design with various combinations of window frame shapes based on existing modeled windows, then masked them up on the structure to view the options. Printed out the window frames to view size comparisons and then taped the cut out window frame options on roundhouse to get a look and feel for what looks right.


Existing windows and new options printed for visual look and feel comparisons

The selected window pane option will then be printed on transparancy film, cut, and then fit into the window bays.


Before the actual new windows are added back to the roundhouse there are some steps to be completed first, so this portion of the renovation is getting a bit ahead, but it is necessary to determine the window pane sizes now so that future renovations can proceed.


Before the actual new window panes are attached the roundhouse will have all the existing window frames and sills removed and replaced. The roundhouse will be cleaned and re-painted a yet to be determined new color, and then new window frames and sill will be measured, cut, and painted, then attached to the roundhouse.

Four windows panes option.


Sixteen windows panes option.


Sixty-four window panes option.


All window panes options in view.


Office Roof Painted ~ Friday, December 7, 2007


The office roof was painted with a coat of Poly Scale Grimy Black, allowed to dry and then placed in position. It has not been glued yet, just looking at the new roof in place.

Painting the coat of Poly Scale Grimy Black Paint.


Painted coat on roundhouse office roof top just about dry.


Newly painted roof sitting on office.


Newly painted roof sitting on office - another view.

12-07-2007 4:24 PM In reply to
Offline LSWrr
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Re: Roundtable and Roundhouse Renovations - Update!

if I had a vote I would go for the 64 pane window.

 

Lee

12-08-2007 7:26 AM In reply to
Offline JimRCGMO
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Re: Roundtable and Roundhouse Renovations - Update!

Ryan - impressive work you've done! My vote would probably be the 16 pane windows, I'd figure that the RR comptroller wouldn't want to pay the glazier's hourly rate to install 64 pieces of glass, but would think the four pane version could be costly to replace those bigger pieces of glass if/when one got cracked/broken later. Just my My 2 cents [2c], though... Wink [;)]

Jim in Cape Girardeau 

12-08-2007 7:35 AM In reply to
Offline TA462
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Re: Roundtable and Roundhouse Renovations - Update!

I like the 64 pain window as well. 
12-08-2007 7:43 AM In reply to
Offline Fergmiester
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Re: Roundtable and Roundhouse Renovations - Update!

 TA462 wrote:
I like the 64 pain window as well. 

64 pane has my vote. Excellent Job Ryan!

Fergie

12-08-2007 10:36 AM In reply to
Offline mls1621
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Re: Roundtable and Roundhouse Renovations - Update!

Ryan,

When first looking at your windows, I thought the 64 pane window looked too busy.  But then I got to thinking about maintenance.  Usually cleaning wasn't that big a deal, but glass replacement might have been.

The cast of replacing a single pane would be the same, labor wise, but the cost of the glass would be less for the smaller panes.  I would think the RR would go for the smaller panes.

Just my opinion.

PS.  Great idea using a spreadsheet to scale the windows, I've done that with signs for decals, but never thought of it for windows.

12-09-2007 1:21 AM In reply to
Offline hoboray
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Re: Roundtable and Roundhouse Renovations - Update!

Did you consider 9 panes ?

 

 

12-09-2007 4:35 AM In reply to
Offline SilverSpike
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Re: Roundtable and Roundhouse Renovations - Update!

Hobo, never did considerd a 9 pane option! Hummmmm...back to the drawing board! Confused [%-)] Big Smile [:D]

Actually, thanks guys for your input and considerations on the window pane options. So far the 64 pane option seems to be the majority selection. And for structures from this period that seems to be the standard size. I have even seen renovated structures such as warehouses that had the windows reconditioned and maintained the same small pane configuration.

And it makes sense with replacement costs on smaller panes, but on that note a few Safety First signs around the interior and exterior walls might help prevent any future accidents with pipes or lumber and such. Going to have to print up a few of these:

Cheers,

Ryan

 

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