Trackside Guides

da Milwaukee beerNut wrote:

Electric substation numbers 15-20 are pink instead of the usual red - they're pink in Safari 2.0.4 as well. Sounds like a Winderz-Firefox spat.

I wanted to make the substations stand out, and add some color to the post so I made them red. Since 15-20 were not built, I decided to make them orange to sepatate them from real substations. However, I thought the orange was too pale, so I made the planned substations pink. 

Jim Scribbins' book, The Hiawatha Story, should be the best place to look for passenger trains in Wausau. 

What were your sources for the milepost numbers?I don't have any Milwaukee ETT's to compare,so I've looked at the June 1971 Official Guide and followed BNSF's milepost numbers on their map on their website.I noticed that the Guide listing varies wildly from Just beyond Aberdeen(listed as mile 711) to Tacoma(mile 2221).BNSF map has Aberdeen as 707.9 and some of the listings west of there vary quite a bit.Great Info on the list.I'm just confused by the milepost numbers.

Have a good one.

Bill B

Bill,

I tried to piece the them together the best I could from several sources. I believe they changed several times due to line relocations.  

Thanks.Yeah,it would be hard to pin down over several eras.I wonder how close or how many errors crept into the Official Guide.I'll have to see if I can find a list of Officials,Agents,and Stations for the Milwaukee Road.I have one for the GN dated January 1970 that I have scanned and on CD(if you want a copy,let me know).I've seen them for the NP and IC.

Have a good one.

Bill B

Milwaukee Road's Structures

A summary of the Tunnels, major Bridges, and Substations of the
Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Paul and Pacific Railroad.

Tunnels
The Milwaukee Road owned a total of 64 tunnels on their railroad.
Fifty one of these were located on the mainline between Chicago and Seattle,
of which two remain in use. The other 13 tunnels were on other lines, with 6 still used by various railroads. By the beginning of 1980, 5 tunnels had been daylighted, 1 was abandoned and another was bypassed. After the system rationalization during March 1980, only two tunnels remained on the slimmed down CMSP&P. Besides their own tunnels, the Milwaukee Road used Union Pacific's tunnel in Spokane, just east of Union Station.

Chicago-Seattle Mainline
Tunnel  1, Tunnel City WI, Canadian Pacific
Tunnel  2, Red Tunnel MT, abandoned 1980
Tunnel  3, Canyon Tunnel MT, abandoned 1980
Tunnel  4, Eagle Nest Tunnel MT, abandoned 1980
Tunnel  5, Josephine Tunnel MT, abandoned 1980
Tunnel  6, Deer Park Tunnel 1 MT, abandoned 1980
Tunnel  7, Deer Park Tunnel 2 MT, abandoned 1980
Tunnel  8, Deer Park Tunnel 3 MT, abandoned 1980
Tunnel  9, Lombard MT, abandoned 1980
Tunnel 10, Fish Creek Tunnel MT, abandoned 1980
Tunnel 11, Pipestone Pass Tunnel MT, abandoned1980
Tunnel 12, Blacktail Tunnel 1 MT, abandoned 1980
Tunnel 13, Blacktail Tunnel 2 MT, abandoned 1980
Tunnel 14, Garrison Tunnel MT, abandoned 1980
Tunnel 15, Nimrod Tunnel MT, abandoned 1980
Tunnel 16, Beavertail Tunnel MT, abandoned 1980
Tunnel 16.5, Bonner Tunnel MT, abandoned 1980
Tunnel 17, Nine Mile Tunnel MT, abandoned 1980
Tunnel 18, Cyr Tunnel MT, abandoned 1980
Tunnel 19, Dominion Creek Tunnel MT, abandoned 1980, Photos
Tunnel 20, St. Paul Pass Tunnel MT/ID, abandoned 1980
Tunnel 21, Dry Creek Tunnel ID, abandoned 1980
Tunnel 22, Moss Creek Tunnel ID, abandoned 1980
Tunnel 23, Small Creek Tunnel 1 ID, abandoned 1980
Tunnel 24, Small Creek Tunnel 2 ID, abandoned 1980
Tunnel 25, Loop Creek Tunnel 1 ID, abandoned 1980
Tunnel 26, Loop Creek Tunnel 2 ID, abandoned 1980
Tunnel 27, Clear Creek Tunnel 1 ID, abandoned 1980
Tunnel 28, Clear Creek Tunnel 2 ID, abandoned 1980
Tunnel 29, Deer Creek Tunnel 1 ID, abandoned 1980
Tunnel 30, Deer Creek Tunnel 2 ID, abandoned 1980
Tunnel 31, Glade Creek Tunnel 1 ID, abandoned 1980
Tunnel 32, Glade Creek Tunnel 2 ID, abandoned 1980
Tunnel 33, Kyle Tunnel ID, abandoned 1980
Tunnel 34, Stetson Tunnel 1 ID, abandoned 1980
Tunnel 35, Stetson Tunnel 2 ID, abandoned 1980
Tunnel 36, Stetson Tunnel 3 ID, abandoned 1980
Tunnel 37, Herrick Tunnel ID, abandoned 1987(?)
Tunnel 38, Omega Tunnel 1 ID, never built
Tunnel 39, Omega Tunnel 2 ID, never built
Tunnel 40, Benewah Tunnel ID, St. Maries River Railroad
Tunnel 41, Watts/Sorrento Tunnel ID, abandoned 1980
Tunnel 42, Rosalia Tunnel WA, daylighted 1911
Tunnel 43, Rock Lake Tunnel 1 WA, abandoned 1980
Tunnel 44, Rock Lake Tunnel 2 WA, abandoned 1980
Tunnel 45, Johnson Creek Tunnel WA, abandoned 1980
Tunnel 46, Horlick Tunnel 1 WA, abandoned 1980
Tunnel 47, Horlick Tunnel 2 WA, abandoned 1980
Tunnel 48, Easton Tunnel WA, abandoned 1980/1987
Tunnel 49, Whittier Tunnel WA, abandoned 1980/1987
Tunnel 50, Snoqualmie Tunnel WA, abandoned 1980/1987
Tunnel 51, Landsburg Tunnel WA, bypassed 1945
Tunnel 52, Noble Tunnel WA, daylighted 1912
Southern Indiana Line
Tunnel 1, Indian Springs Tunnel IN, Indiana Rail Road
La Farge Line
Tunnel 1, Tunnelville Tunnel WI, abandoned 1939
Great Falls Line
Tunnel 1, Sage Creek / Hoosac Tunnel MT, Central Montana Rail
Tunnel 2, Arrow Creek Tunnel MT, daylighted 1961
Tunnel 3, Lacey Tunnel MT, abandoned 1980
Tunnel 4, Amphitheater Tunnel MT, daylighted before 1980
Tunnel 5, Belt Creek Tunnel MT, abandoned 1980
Tunnel 6, Belt Creek Tunnel MT, abandoned 1980
Elk River Line
Tunnel 1, Rover Tunnel ID, St. Maries River Railroad
Tunnel 2, Neva Tunnel ID, daylighted 1970s
Metaline Falls Line
Tunnel 1, Blueslide Tunnel WA, Pend Oreille Valley Railroad
Tunnel 2, Vail Tunnel WA, Pend Oreille Valley Railroad
Tunnel 3, Wolf Creek Tunnel WA, Pend Oreille Valley Railroad
.

Major Bridges
With over 10,000 route miles during most of its existance, it was natural that the Milwaukee Road had a large number of significant bridges. The following are the ones which I consider to be the most remarkable.

Mississippi River
DRI&NW Bridge, Davenport IA, BNSF Railway, Photos
CMSP&P Bridge, Savanna IL, Iowa, Chicago and Eastern, Photos
CMSP&P Bridge, Prairie du Chien WI, abandoned 1961, Photos
CMSP&P Bridge, La Crosse WI, Canadian Pacific, Photos
CB&Q/GB&W Bridge, Winona MN, used 1952-1979, Photo
W&SP/C&NW Bridge, Winona MN, used 1872-1876, Photos
CMSP&P Bridge, Wabasha MN, abandoned 1952
CMSP&P Bridge, Hastings MN, Canadian Pacific, Photos
CSPM&O Bridge, St. Paul MN, Union Pacific, Photos
CMSP&P Bridge, Minneapolis MN, Canadian Pacific, Photos
Missouri River
Harry S Truman Bridge, Kansas City MO, IC&E and UP
Choteau Bridge, Kansas City MO, replaced 1945, Photo
CMSP&P Bridge, Chamberlain SD, Dakota Southern Railway, Photo
CMSP&P Bridge, Mobridge SD, BNSF Railway, Photo
CMSP&P Bridge, Great Falls MT, abandoned 1980, Photo
CMSP&P Bridge, Lombard MT, abandoned 1980, Photos
Yellowstone River
CMSP&P Bridge, Calypso MT, abandoned 1982
CMSP&P Bridge, Tusler MT, abandoned 1980
CMSP&P Bridge, Paragon MT, abandoned 1980
Chatcolet Lake
CMSP&P Bridge, Benewah ID, St. Maries River Railroad, Photos
Columbia River
CMSP&P Bridge, Beverly WA, abandoned 1980
SP&S Bridge, Portland OR, BNSF Railway
.

Substations
The western half of the Milwaukee Road mainline between Chicago and Seattle
crossed over 5 mountain ranges. These were the Belt, Rocky, Bitterroot, Saddle and Cascade Mountains. The decision was made to electrify the Rocky Mountain and
Coast Divisions, powered by 28 substations. The first 14 substations were located along the 440 mile section linking Harlowton, MT, with Avery, ID.
On the Coast Division, 216 miles were electrified from Othello to Tacoma,
including 8 stations. The Avery to Othello section was never completed, and substations #15 to #20 were not built.
Even though the power was turned off over 30 years ago, seven of these
substations are still standing.

Substation  1, Two Dot, MT, removed
Substation  2, Loweth, MT, still standing, Photo
Substation  3, Francis, MT, removed
Substation  4, Eustis, MT, removed, Photo
Substation  5, Piedmont, MT, removed
Substation  6, Janney, MT, removed
Substation  7, Morel, MT, removed
Substation  8, Gold Creek, MT, still standing, Photos
Substation  9, Ravenna, MT, still standing, Photo
Substation 10, Primrose, MT, still standing, Photo
Substation 11, Tarkio, MT, removed
Substation 12, Drexel, MT, removed
Substation 13, East Portal, MT, Photos
Substation 14, Avery, ID, removed, Photos
Substation 15, St. Joe, ID, never built
Substation 16, Plummer, ID, never built
Substation 17, Rosalia, WA, never built
Substation 18, Castleton, WA, never built
Substation 19, Ralston, WA, never built
Substation 20, Roxboro, WA, never built
Substation 21, Taunton, WA, still standing, Photo
Substation 22, Doris, WA, removed
Substation 23, Kittitas, WA, removed, Photos
Substation 24, Cle Elum, WA, still standing, Photos
Substation 25, Hyak, WA, removed
Substation 26, Cedar Falls, WA, removed, Photo
Substation 27, Renton, WA, still standing, Photo
Substation 28, Tacoma Jct, WA, removed
.

Passenger Train Stations
All of the larger passenger train stations on the Milwaukee Road remain in place.

Chicago Union Station
Milwaukee
Madison
Minneapolis
Aberdeen
Miles City
Harlowton
Lewistown
Butte
Great Falls
Missoula
Seattle Union Station

Great post. However, this is a bit unclear:

nanaimo73 wrote:

Between Wauwatosa and Elm Grove the mainline passes under the former C&NW mainline heading for Butler yard. Wikimapia

That location shows the "Air Line", which I don't believe was used for passenger trains. That is now abandoned. The main line loops up and around and is located about a mile to the north. It can be seen here:

Wikimapia

The junction of the Air Line and main line can be seen here:

Wikimapia

Nanaimo 73

You cost me most of a good nights sleep with the Milwaukee Road Mainline article or should I call it tomb you put together. I started to read it yesterday evening at about  7:00 and finished it at three. I must say it is the most comprehensive work I have ever read on the Milwaukee Road. I grew up in South Seattle and Renton so remember the electrics passing down the street in Renton. I also remember the half full Olympian Hiawathas in both color schemes the Milwaukee colors and Union Pacific.

Your tomb is a worthy addition to anyones library and will probably have to go to Office Max today to buy a case of paper and more ink for the printer.

Congratulations, I sincerly wish you the best in any future endeavours I have read several of your works on the Bridges across the Mississippi etc. but this was your finest work by far.  It is now 7:17 AM and I am going back to bed.

Al - in - Stockton  

Thanks Al. I hope you've recovered from the jet lag.

2,200 miles in 7 hours, that's over 300 mph!