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Hydrocarbon Liquid, N.O.S.

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Hydrocarbon Liquid, N.O.S.
Posted by ericsp on Saturday, December 19, 2009 12:42 AM

Athearn (a model train manufacturer) is coming out with some models of 33,000+ gallon, pressure tankcars. Some of them are stenciled Hydrocarbon Liquid, N.O.S., but the placard is 1075. According to Athearn, their contact at a Class 1 railroad said that is acceptable. However the ERG lists only 3295 for Hydrocarbon Liquid, N.O.S. and does not list that designation under 1075. I have a question for those whose job (or previous job) dealt with placarding or shipping haz-mat. Is Athearn correct?
 

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Posted by ericsp on Saturday, December 19, 2009 1:46 AM

From what I read in 49 CFR 172.101, 49 CFR 172.302, 49 CFR 172.330, and 49 CFR 172.332 it looks like the information Athearn has is incorrect.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Saturday, December 19, 2009 5:41 AM
Isn't 1075 LP Gas?

I've seen "Pyrolysis Gasoline" shipped in former pressure tank cars (guess it's light enough for the higher capacity), but I don't ever recall seeing one lettered the way you describe (I think the placard was 1203, same as ordinary gasoline). However, Athearn must have gotten a photograph somewhere, and thought they could "adapt" their model.

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Posted by Paul_D_North_Jr on Saturday, December 19, 2009 6:27 AM

"N.O.S." = Not Otherwise Specified - a general 'catch-all' classification ?

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Posted by ericsp on Saturday, December 19, 2009 12:36 PM
Yes and yes

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Posted by ericsp on Sunday, December 20, 2009 1:05 AM

Carl, we get many pressure tankcars placarded 3295 (as well as some placarded 1203). I do not think I have ever seen a commodity stencil on the 3295 tankcars, although I can tell where the former commodity stencil was painted over.

Indeed Athearn did say they got the idea from the photograph. I have seen other placarding/stencil errors: pressure tankcars placarded 1075 but stenciled Gasoline, tankcars placarded 1987 but stenciled ethyl ether, and a general service tankcar placarded 1075 (I hope that was a wrong placard).

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