General Discussion (Classic Trains)

Johnny, I'm going to take a stab at identifying the train. NC&StL No's. 3 & 4 running between Nashville and Atlanta. The leased RR over which it ran was the State of Georgia owned Western & Atlantic between Chattanooga and Atlanta.

Mark

P.S.I can't find any record of setout sleepers at Chattanooga so I'm just guessing that they ran at an earlier time than any of the OG's which I have to reference.

KCSfan:

Johnny, I'm going to take a stab at identifying the train. NC&StL No's. 3 & 4 running between Nashville and Atlanta. The leased RR over which it ran was the State of Georgia owned Western & Atlantic between Chattanooga and Atlanta.

Mark

P.S.I can't find any record of setout sleepers at Chattanooga so I'm just guessing that they ran at an earlier time than any of the OG's which I have to reference.

In 1893, the train had a through sleeper between St. Louis and Atlanta, and carried the name Quickstep.

I thought of throwing an oddity of its line in--in its course, the train crossed one state five times, a second state four times, and a third state once, all in less than about fifty miles. Would this have made it easier, or would it have made it more difficult?

Johnny

Johnny

Deggesty:

I thought of throwing an oddity of its line in--in its course, the train crossed one state five times, a second state four times, and a third state once, all in less than about fifty miles. Would this have made it easier, or would it have made it more difficult?

Johnny

That would have made it more difficult for me. Because it is only 134 rail miles between Atlanta and Chattanooga, I had a hard time imagining there would be a sleeper running only between the two cities. The same is true of the Chattanooga - Nashville route which is only 152 miles in length.

On to the next one. You have 20 questions to identify the train I have in mind, the end points of its route and the RR(s) over which it ran.

Mark

KCSfan:

Deggesty:

I thought of throwing an oddity of its line in--in its course, the train crossed one state five times, a second state four times, and a third state once, all in less than about fifty miles. Would this have made it easier, or would it have made it more difficult?

Johnny

That would have made it more difficult for me. Because it is only 134 rail miles between Atlanta and Chattanooga, I had a hard time imagining there would be a sleeper running only between the two cities. The same is true of the Chattanooga - Nashville route which is only 152 miles in length.

On to the next one. You have 20 questions to identify the train I have in mind, the end points of its route and the RR(s) over which it ran.

Mark

Did the train operate east of the Mississippi River?

passengerfan:

Did the train operate east of the Mississippi River?

(1) Yes

Mark

Did the train operate in a North-South direction? 

passengerfan:

Did the train operate in a North-South direction? 

(2) Yes

wanswheel:

Mark, is the route more than 500 miles?

(3) No

Was one of the terminal cities Detroit?

Al

wanswheel:

Johnny, I hope to learn what city on the NC&StL map the sleepers were set out for.

Mike, Chattanooga was the set-out city.

Going from Atlanta, the train crossed Tennessee five times, Georgia four times, and Alabama once; with the exception of the west end of the Alabama crossing, all of these were close to Chattanooga. Even now, I-24 dips down into Georgia on its way from Nashville to Chattanooga. 

Johnny

Mark, did the train run in the South (south of the Ohio and Potomac rivers)?

Johnny

passengerfan:

Was one of the terminal cities Detroit?

(4) No

Mark

Deggesty:

Mark, did the train run in the South (south of the Ohio and Potomac rivers)?

(5) No

Mark

Mark, did the train operate (in whole or in part) over one or more predecessor railroads to today's Norfolk Southern?   -  a.s.