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Texas Zepher
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Classic Railroad Quiz (at least 50 years old).
Classic Railroad Quiz.
Just for fun, a thread to quiz forum members on railroad subjects. Person who answers the question correctly gets to post the next quiz question.
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KCSfan
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Re: Classic Railroad Quiz (at least 50 years old).
This question has to do with gas electric motor cars which I've heard referred to as interurbans without wires. These doodlebugs rapidly gained popularity early in the 20th century and saw years of service on both Class I's and shortlines. What was the first accident of a gas electric in the U.S. that resulted in the death of a passenger or employee? Name the railroad, the year and the location.
Mark
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Texas Zepher
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Re: Classic Railroad Quiz (at least 50 years old).
July 31, 1940;
Pennsylvania Railroad; Front Street and Hudson Drive Cuyahoga Falls, OH. ??? 43 dead.
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KCSfan
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Re: Classic Railroad Quiz (at least 50 years old).
TZ,
No cigar for you yet. The earliest gas electric wreck happened many years prior to 1940.
Incidentally I also posted this question to the old thread without any problem whatsoever. Since others are used to viewing that one, if it continues to work OK, we might want to discontinue this new one.
Mark
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KCSfan
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Re: Classic Railroad Quiz (at least 50 years old).
Wanswheel wins. See my reply on the other Class Railroad Questions thread.
Mark
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Texas Zepher
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Re: Classic Railroad Quiz (at least 50 years old).
 KCSfan:No cigar for you yet. The earliest gas electric wreck happened many years prior to 1940.
I figured that. That is just the ONLY wreck of a rdc that I know of.
Incidentally I also posted this question to the old thread without any problem whatsoever. Since others are used to viewing that one, if it continues to work OK, we might want to discontinue this new one.
Well that thread had other clutter in it too. But now that we have cluttered this new one up with junk like this I suppose it doesn't matter. We now have two threads with junk in them.
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wanswheel
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Re: Classic Railroad Quiz (at least 50 years old).
The old thread is full of junk and treasure.
Barack Obama will board a train at 30th Street Station. Abraham Lincoln arrived at 30th Street Station on what railroad?
Mike
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KCSfan
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Re: Classic Railroad Quiz (at least 50 years old).
TZ,The KCS actually had two subsidiaries that operated the Texas parts of its lines. The Texarkana & Ft Smith built the 79 miles between Port Arthur and the TX/LA state line at the Sabine River. It became a part of the KCS but was operated separately in accordance with Texas state law until 1933 when the ICC used its authority to override the Texas law. The state of Texas appealed the ICC ruling to the Supreme Court which decided in favor of the ICC in 1934. This was the case that ended the requirement that railroads operating in Texas had to be headquartered in the state. The T&FtS was then leased by the KCS and later was dissolved as a corporation and fully absorbed into the KCS system.The Louisiana Arkansas & Texas operated 181 miles in Texas from McKinney near Dallas to the Louisiana state line. This was originally an MKT line that was purchased in 1923 by the Louisiana Railway & Navigation Co. of Texas. In 1930 the LR&N of Texas was renamed the Louisiana Arkansas & Texas and for a while was headquartered in Greenville, TX. In 1939 the LA&T was merged into the parent Louisiana & Arkansas which in turn was acquired by the KCS. The combined roads operated as the KCS/L&A Lines until the early 1960’s and by 1966 the L&A had been completely dropped from its name. However the L&A existed as a legal entity until 1992 when it was dissolved as a corporation. I always thought Colorado & Southern trackage ended at the NM/TX state line and thought it was FW&D from there south into Texas. Your reply got me to do some further research and to my surprise I found that the FW&D was indeed a subsidiary of the C&S. I never fail to learn something new and interesting from these questions.Mark
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KCSfan
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Re: Classic Railroad Quiz (at least 50 years old).
You guys aren't going to believe this but I just attempted to post a message to this and the old Classic Trains Questions and got another one of those G-- D--n Post Pending Moderation messages on both threads.
Mark
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Deggesty
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Re: Classic Railroad Quiz (at least 50 years old).
wanswheel:
The old thread is full of junk and treasure.
Barack Obama will board a train at 30th Street Station. Abraham Lincoln arrived at 30th Street Station on what railroad?
Mike
I'll say the Philadelphia and Columbia RR.
Johnny
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wanswheel
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Re: Classic Railroad Quiz (at least 50 years old).
President-elect James Buchanan rode the P&C from Lancaster to Columbia in 1857, same year it was reorganized into PRR Philadelphia Division. The 30th Street Station that President-elect Lincoln arrived at was elsewhere and was demolished in 1931.
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Deggesty
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Re: Classic Railroad Quiz (at least 50 years old).
wanswheel:
President-elect James Buchanan rode the P&C from Lancaster to Columbia in 1857, same year it was reorganized into PRR Philadelphia Division. The 30th Street Station that President-elect Lincoln arrived at was elsewhere and was demolished in 1931.
I forgot that he came by way of New York. If he did not use the Camden and Amboy, which came down the east bank of the Delaware, he rode the Trenton and Philadelphia (1851 American Railway Guide, reprinted by Kalmbach in 1945).
The reprinted Guide has this caveat: "We must warn against writing to the advertisers herein as a satisfactory reply cannot be expected. For this please accept our most humble apologies." Often, the railroads made no mention of the necessity of using a ferry to reach their trains. There is a list of the various piers and ferry slips and stations used by the railroads that served New York CIty.
Johnny
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wanswheel
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Re: Classic Railroad Quiz (at least 50 years old).
Deggesty:
I forgot that he came by way of New York.
That's true, and for 70 years there was a depot on West 30th Street.
Excerpt from A Train Ride For Mr. Lincoln by Marc B. Grayson
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22A+Train+Ride+For+Mr.+Lincoln+by+Marc+B.+Grayson%22&btnG=Search
At Troy, the President's party was transferred to a new train of the _____ _____ Railroad. The car provided for the President was described as: "one of the handsomest, perhaps, ever run in this country. The decorations are blue, with silver stars, and the rich sofas, carpeting and luxurious chairs give to the car the appearance of an elegantly furnished salon." Lincoln spoke briefly at Hudson, Rhinebeck, Poughkeepsie, Fishkill, and Peekskill. At 3 P.M., the special train arrived at the new 30th Street depot in New York, the nation's largest city with a population exceeding eight hundred thousand.
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Deggesty
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Re: Classic Railroad Quiz (at least 50 years old).
Mike, what's the status on this quiz?
Johnny
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