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loathar
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08-05-2004
Amish country Tenn.
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I wonder if they mixed up 2-8-4 and 4-8-2? It's definitely longer than a Mikado.
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tomikawaTT
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02-13-2005
Southwest US
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 Gandy Dancer wrote: | --snip-- Atlas Tool Company (today Atlas Model Railroad Co., Inc.) either imported or produced some brass locomotives in the 1950s and possibly as late as 1964. Something in the back of my mind has the name "Akaine" associated with this.<?> Any other old timers out there remember if that was the same or a different thing? |
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I'm not sure who the US importer was, but "Akane" was the brainchild of a single Japanese modeler who decided that there was a niche for brass USRA locomotives and set out to produce them. They were of excellent quality (I have fond memories of a 2-6-6-2 Mallet that I sold to a Chessie fan when I decided to go to Japanese prototype.) IIRC, Akane found itself acting as a training ground for workers who were then snapped up by the Japanese electronic industry. I don't know what eventually happened to the company. What is keeping me from bidding just out of curiosity to find out what this is all about is the outrageous shipping charge! |
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Agree!! The shipping charge is almost certainly more than the original LHS price of a pristine kit. Chuck (modeling Central Japan in September, 1964)
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Soo Line fan
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10-28-2005
Detroit, Michigan
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Why are you guys ridiculing this poor ebayer? ![Laugh [(-D]](/trccs/emoticons/icon_smile_newlaugh.gif) "This is a rare HO scale train piece made by Tyco. Made in the 1960's this piece is now a rare collectible, and can be yours (for a price of course)." If it was made in the 60s then it must be a rare "piece". We all know that.![Dead [xx(]](/trccs/emoticons/icon_smile_dead.gif) But wait theirs more! " Included a brass Missouri Pacific Line Mountain 4-8-2 Locomotive. There are also blue prints and some assembly is required." Those blue prints are a valuable addition; as I am still looking for blue prints to go with my engines. Here they are included! And people want to know why its called idiotbay. We need to get her together with the 1.2K Athearn BB engine guy. Jim
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river_eagle
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10-19-2004
St. Louis, MO
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I'm just wondering, how many, if any, of you bothered to ask the seller for more information?, a more detailed description?, a clearer, close-up picture of the loco and/or the paperwork?, or the reason for the high shipping fee with included insurance?, before passing judgement on the seller as a crook, or as to the quality, condition, and identification, of what is being offered for sale. ![Ashamed [*^_^*]](/trccs/emoticons/icon_smile_ashamed.gif)
doesn't that just make you proud. Anybody?.....Nobody?.... Bueller?.....Bueller?....Bueller? ![Sigh [sigh]](/trccs/emoticons/icon_smile_sigh.gif)
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don7
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04-11-2005
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I checked out the e-bay add on E_Bay Canada and the S&H charges are 18.95 US, a bit high but not outrageous as some are saying. I notice on e-bay quite often the S&H charges are in error.
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loathar
Joined on
08-05-2004
Amish country Tenn.
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River-Eagle- I sent the seller an E-Mail asking for more details before I started this thread this mourning. I asked how they knew it was a brass Tyco since none where made let alone with that wheel configuration. No responce yet. ![Whistling [:-^]](/trccs/emoticons/icon_smile_whistling.gif)
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SteamFreak
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07-13-2006
New Joizey
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| loathar wrote: | | River-Eagle- I sent the seller an E-Mail asking for more details before I started this thread this mourning. I asked how they knew it was a brass Tyco since none where made let alone with that wheel configuration. No responce yet. |
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I sent her a message after reading this advising her to relist it with clear, closeup photos of the entire loco, including the underside so that any manufacturers name will be visible. No response either. I guess she figures we're trying to cheat her out of her rare Tyco.
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loathar
Joined on
08-05-2004
Amish country Tenn.
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She also has a bunch of "RARE" Aurora model kits for sale. (look pretty cheap and old) $40 shipping on each of those too.
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river_eagle
Joined on
10-19-2004
St. Louis, MO
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somethings gone wrong with shipping calculator!!! from Dover, DE to NYC ZIP 10001 $14.25 ST LOUIS ZIP 63101 $40.15 CALIFORNIA ZIP 92328 $69.10 insc included priority mail, the price difference east coast vs west coast, should be only a dollar or so
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Darth Santa Fe
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06-21-2005
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I wonder if it's a brass BOWSER 4-8-2 that got mixed up with a Tyco tender? It does look an awful lot like Bowser's model to me, and I believe they were sold with the tender separate from the engine. I wonder if the seller ever looked at the "blueprints" to make sure they went with the model?
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jimrice4449
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04-09-2004
North Idaho
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Assuming honest ignorance on the part of the seller, I'd go W/ Darth Santa Fe's guess. Bowser did maKE A BRONZE (NOT BRASS) 4-8-2 that was sold w/o tender. It was a sand casting and closer to 1/8" scale than HO. Immedietly post WWII Mantua (Tyco predessor) had, in addition to the Mogul and Belle of the 80s, brass (boiler & cab) and zamac (chasis, tender etc.)kits for a Reading 4-6-2 and camelback 0-4-0 but no Mountain.
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marknewton
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12-18-2002
Sydney, Australia
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Funny how a model described as "mint" appears to have neither rods nor trailing truck. I reckon she's trying it on.
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marknewton
Joined on
12-18-2002
Sydney, Australia
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| river_eagle wrote: | I'm just wondering, how many, if any, of you bothered to ask the seller for more information?, a more detailed description?, a clearer, close-up picture of the loco and/or the paperwork?, or the reason for the high shipping fee with included insurance?, before passing judgement on the seller as a crook, or as to the quality, condition, and identification, of what is being offered for sale. |
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Anyone who advertises items like this, and decribes it with arrant nonsense like "rare" and "collectible", deserves to cop a flogging! The expression "caveat emptor" is very popular for a reason... Cheers, Mark.
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ndbprr
Joined on
09-10-2002
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When I was very young right after WW2 I can remember drooling on a store window every chance I got to look at the Mantua brass kit engines and believe me they were kits! I don't think the average guy could have assembled one of those things they were so crude but it was the state of the art. At the most they were six wheeled engines and the ones I remember were all little four wheel engines like a saddle tank and a mother hubbard. As I recall the first 8 wheel drive engine introduced was the American Flyer one followed by Varney and Tyco but that was the latter half of the 50's.
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richg1998
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10-30-2006
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I sent an eMail also stating that some people were discussing this engine. No response yet. I downloaded and enhanced the photo and it looks like there are driver rods. Trying to sharpen the photo starts to cause some distortion. Not 100% sure though. I know some people who sell on eBay and many sellers use terms that may not b e correct but will show up in an eBay search. A example I have seen more than once, a steam engine is "engine train car or "engine train tender coal car". Throw in "rare" or some other term. Rich
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