General Discussion (Model Railroader)

Maybe now we will get the best ever MTH Big Boy in HO now, or a Challenger, or maybe one of the FEF-3. 

Does this mean Union Pacific will now use DCS to run their railroad?    

Not ANOTHER Big Boy!

Is it just me, or was an aweful lot of time, energy, and money (not to mention cyber space in threads and posts here and on other sites) wasted just to bring all full circle to exactly where we started? Just a thought.

Ron

 

Fergmiester wrote:

Though I appreciate Mr Wolf's efforts. A wolf despite the sheep skin clothing will always be a wolf...

Hopefully though, he will continue to contribute positively to the hobby.  I think in the long run if we see no more proprietary style lawsuits from MTH that adversely affect the hobby, many modelers that distrusted and disliked Mike Wolf and MTH may be in a much more forgiving mode.

Uh, but let's not forget that this benefits his company as well.

Hey guys - just remember.....although it sounds like Mike Wolf deserves a lot of credit.......

PLENTY of other folks - including a fair amount of whining by certain model train shop owners, wink wink - were in on trying to get this reversed.

Just got off the phone to confirm that apparently as far as Athearn products are concerned, any UP-related item that was priced higher due to all this stupidity is now going to go back to the same MSRP that would be on a non-UP related item.

This is very very good news.

We all -- even those of us who do not model UP or any of its "merged" roads -- owe Mike Wolf and Nils Huxtable a big "Thank You".

Now it's about those "SD70ACe locomotives in UP colors and bearing the logos of model railroad manufacturers and the Union Pacific".  I hope that's a two way street and UP will paint at least one SD70ACe with the logos of the model railroad manufacturers.  This would avoid having models with no prototype but which would be the model and which would be the prototype? 

Chuck

Tom,
With BLI announcing a streamlined 20th Century Hudson that may happen! Keep the boxing gloves handy.
Did you see Trainworld deal on P2K sound U28B's NYC at $99. Probably not your era, definitely not mine. Oh well......

Ron,

It always strikes me how Hollywood comes up with movie titles that become applicable to the real world. Re your observation, "Back to the Future"

Another one that I find brilliant and oh so applicable is "Dumb and Dumber". Almost without saying this title occurs to me almost every time a politician opens his/her mouth.

Jon

Now maybe I can buy some of those previously licensed products again. What joy!

 

MAYBE.

<BLOCKQUOTE><table class="quoteOuterTable"><tr><td class="txt4"><img src="/trccs/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif">&nbsp;<strong>Paul3 wrote:</strong></td></tr><tr><td class="quoteTable"><table width="100%"><tr><td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4">Actually, NYC rights are held by American Premier Underwriters (APU), which is what Penn Central is called these days.  Yes, they are still around, and still own Grand Central Terminal.</td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>

This information seems to be out of date - I looked up the NYC and PRR trademarks at the US Patent & Trademark Office (http://www.uspto.gov/main/search.html), and they have both expired. There was an attempt by an individual to register them as trademarks related to Model Railroads a few years ago, but apparently the application was rejected.

I think I'm correct in saying that generally speaking, if a trademark has been abandoned and is already in use in the MRR world (I find it unlikely that it wouldn't be!), then I doubt that any new trademark on that name/logo would be valid.

ericboone wrote:

TrainFreak409 wrote: MIKE WOLF IS MY NEW HERO! Remember, even Al Capone gave Christmas presents to the poor children in Chicago.  Maybe this is the first sign that Mike Wolf has changed his spots.  Time will tell.

This is true...But I have always been a supporter of MTH and Mike Wolf. He's a nice guy in person, even if his business tactics are unorthodox. I think Mike is doing a great thing for the hobby.

I like the UP, but I sure don't want to be paying extra licensing fees when I go to decal my Bowser 4-8-8-4....

Davidson out, sanity in.  Many thanks to all who were successful in the fight.  Now maybe we can concentrate on being modelers and UP can concentrate on being a great railroad.

The real question here is are all of those model railroad manufacturers going to lower their prices on their UP equipment? This could be where thereal consipiracy comes into play.

Ron

Guess people don't read every post. YES Athearn, for one, has already confirmed that any UP or an UP-related road name item's price will now be lowered to the MSRP for non-UP items.