Layouts and layout building

Benchwork, scenery, track, and more. If you're building a scale model train layout, this is where to go. If you're new here, please read our forum policies.

Last post 11-19-2009 7:23 PM by salt water cowboy. 13 replies.
Rate:
Sort Posts:
Page 1 of 1 (14 items)
11-17-2009 7:09 AM
Offline salt water cowboy
Not Ranked
Joined on 02-21-2007
Hershey, Pa.
Posts 247

enviro-tex

 Good day all! Does anyone know how long a container of enviro-tex lite will last once opened. I have a box that I used a small amount out of to pour a small pond on an old layout about 5 years ago. It has been closed up tightly ever since, but I don't want to use it if it yields unsatisfactory results once opened and sat around for so long.

Thanks!

Matt

11-17-2009 10:50 AM In reply to
Offline Weighmaster
Not Ranked
Joined on 03-10-2007
Shakopee, MN
Posts 107

Re: enviro-tex

Mix up a small amount (if you can find the catalyst; don't ask) and pour into something disposable.  Good luck and please advise...Gary

11-17-2009 10:57 AM In reply to
Offline MisterBeasley
Top 10 Contributor
Joined on 12-02-2004
Bedford, MA, USA
Posts 9,615

Re: enviro-tex

I agree.  Your best bet is to make a small test pour.

I have some that's been open for well over a year, but kept tightly sealed.  Since Envirotex is a two-part resin, the interesting stuff doesn't happen until you mix the components.  Still, 5 years is a long time.

So, give it a try and let us know, OK?

Is this Envirotex or Envirotex Lite?  The "Lite" stuff seems to be a newer formulation.  I recall reading somewhere that the new stuff doesn't smell as bad when it's curing. If you've got the older formula, use it in a well-ventilated space only.

11-17-2009 7:03 PM In reply to
Offline salt water cowboy
Not Ranked
Joined on 02-21-2007
Hershey, Pa.
Posts 247

Re: enviro-tex

 OK. I'll give it a shot tomorrow.  (It's the Lite stuff btw and I had no issue with fumes although it was used for a very small pond. There will be a river and a bay side scene on my layout this time around.)

 Matt

11-18-2009 11:51 AM In reply to
Offline cacole
Top 10 Contributor
Joined on 07-23-2003
Sierra Vista, Arizona
Posts 9,315

Re: enviro-tex

 Make absolutely sure the areas you're going to pour into are leakproof or the Envirotex will just disappear.

11-18-2009 1:14 PM In reply to
Offline Allegheny2-6-6-6
Top 500 Contributor
Joined on 03-24-2007
Posts 1,674

Re: enviro-tex

 Envirotex appears to have a one year shelf life after opening any time longer it's a crap shoot as to how it's going to look but of more concern last.

11-18-2009 2:32 PM In reply to
Offline Capt. Grimek
Top 500 Contributor
Joined on 03-19-2008
Seattle Area
Posts 817

Re: enviro-tex

Being chemically sensitive (migraines, wife's respiratory issues) I'd like to hear from similar folks (people who'll only use acrylic paints and other low odor materials) if the "lite" version of enviro-tex is truly "almost" odor free.

I have no windows in my train room and can blow scents out the doorway with a box fan, but not for a whole/two day period for each pour.

Been considering "magic water" brand for this reason, but still a long way's off.

Thanks for any additional "fumes/sensitivity" feedback anyone can provide. I often open bottles in the store and sniff but don't know how enviro-tex is packaged. Thank you.

11-18-2009 4:21 PM In reply to
Offline Allegheny2-6-6-6
Top 500 Contributor
Joined on 03-24-2007
Posts 1,674

Re: enviro-tex

 Thats the one super advantage of Envirotex lite it's virtually odor free if it were the old stuff then you would need to evacuate your wife, kids pets etc. that stuff was NASTY

11-18-2009 4:52 PM In reply to
Offline saronaterry
Not Ranked
Joined on 01-01-2008
Posts 500

Re: enviro-tex

I only use the Lite. Since I normally model in the colder Wisconsin winters, an oderless mix was a must. The CFO won't even let me paint clouds or track in the winter. No problems with odor. I have had open (used) containers of the Lite.  As long  as I've resealed the containers I have had NO problems reusing the product the next modeling season. My experience, anyway!

Hope it helps!!

Terry

11-18-2009 8:59 PM In reply to
Offline MisterBeasley
Top 10 Contributor
Joined on 12-02-2004
Bedford, MA, USA
Posts 9,615

Re: enviro-tex

I don't react badly to chemicals, but I can smell them pretty well even if they don't bother me much.  (I love bicycling around dinner time and smelling what my neighbors are grilling.)  I haven't picked up any particular odor from Envirotex Lite, either.

I prefer not to have a lot of open windows when pouring my "water." This circulates dust and pollen, which will stick permanently to the surface.  I try to put a sheet of cardboard a few inches above the surface to catch any stray particles, in any case.

11-18-2009 9:10 PM In reply to
Offline Capt. Grimek
Top 500 Contributor
Joined on 03-19-2008
Seattle Area
Posts 817

Re: enviro-tex

Thanks guys!! I'll put it on my list of "friendly" chemical agents/products, then.
11-19-2009 7:16 AM In reply to
Offline salt water cowboy
Not Ranked
Joined on 02-21-2007
Hershey, Pa.
Posts 247

Re: enviro-tex

 OK folks: Took your advice and did a test pour onto a scrap piece of masonite yesterday morning. Used 5 milliliters of each part. Just checked on it this morning and it is probably 90% cured and looking beautiful. No cloudiness, murkiness or sloppiness. Perfecto. So, five years didn't affect it a bit.

Matt

11-19-2009 5:33 PM In reply to
Offline saronaterry
Not Ranked
Joined on 01-01-2008
Posts 500

Re: enviro-tex

Matt, when I mix and pour the stuff I follow the directions,with this exception: I pour an amount of one of the bottles into a plastic beer glass, mark the bottle and pour in  the same amount from the other bottle.I've found if you try to measure it in a container, then pour it into a mixing container it just doesn't work so well.

 

Terry

11-19-2009 7:23 PM In reply to
Offline salt water cowboy
Not Ranked
Joined on 02-21-2007
Hershey, Pa.
Posts 247

Re: enviro-tex

saronaterry:

Matt, when I mix and pour the stuff I follow the directions,with this exception: I pour an amount of one of the bottles into a plastic beer glass, mark the bottle and pour in  the same amount from the other bottle.I've found if you try to measure it in a container, then pour it into a mixing container it just doesn't work so well.

 

Terry

Well, I hope you drank the beer first! Actually not a bad idea. On my test pour I measured each part using a child's medicine cup and transferred it into a small plastic cup to mix. I held the medicine cup in the air for a long time waiting for all the drips to finally get out.

Thanks for the tip!

Matt

 
Page 1 of 1 (14 items)
Copyright © 2009 TRAINS.COM
Powered by Community Server (Commercial Edition), by Telligent Systems
E-mail Address:
Password:
Remember me
Get Newsletter
Get our free weekly newsletter delivered to your inbox
My Profile
Screenname: (get your screenname)
Search Community
in