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Last post 09-09-2009 1:02 AM by WSOR 3801. 7 replies.
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08-13-2009 7:21 PM
Offline upjake
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loco turning

How do today's railroads turn diesels around?  Do they still use old roundhouses and wyes for this?

08-13-2009 7:32 PM In reply to
Offline 4merroad4man
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Re: loco turning

Turntables, wyes and balloon tracks.

09-01-2009 1:38 PM In reply to
Offline wjstix
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Re: loco turning

If they have to turn them for some reason, they could still use a turntable if they have one, otherwise as noted a wye or balloon track of some type. Turning is not as necessary for diesels as for steam, since on say a branchline they can work equally well forward or backwards so it doesn't require turning. On mainline trains they usually use two or more engines together, so can put the engines back to back so they don't have to turn the engines, just go to the other engine and run them from there when it's time to go the other direction with a train. (Of course you can put several other engines between the back to back ones too if you need more power.)

http://railpix.railfan.net/dieseljpeg/dh-7309.jpg

09-01-2009 6:02 PM In reply to
Offline BaltACD
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Re: loco turning

With the advent of the high horsepower 'wide body' units the need to turn units has increased.  For the most part the 'rear' of these units are not equipped with ditch lights, and the rearward view is less than optimum.  Federal regs restrict trains to 20 MPH over road crossings when the leading engine is not quipped with ditch lights, even though there is an operating headlight.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=295008&nseq=745

09-01-2009 7:32 PM In reply to
Offline Kootenay Central
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Re: loco turning

In the old days, before universal ditch lights, the rear on a road freight unit, such as a GP35, let say, would have only a single headlight bulb rather than two, no class lights nor illuminated number lights at the rear.

These units rarely had a 'pilot' on the rear, thus they were very vulnerable to objects like rocks or deep snow on the track when traveling in reverse.

Ditto an A Unit operating in reverse or a B unit.

Visibility in reverse was awful from an A, especially for a small hoghead.

A Units had all sorts of unpopular characteristics unless going only forward from terminal to terminal, or on a passenger train, and were almost universally loathed once Geeps and other more modern units appeared.

A and B units could pull tonnage, when geared correctly and operating properly.

When running backwards with locomotives without pilots on the rear, care had to be taken.

With an A or B Unit in deep snow, as in feet, it was a good policy to run in with a loaded car to break the way so snow would not go up over rear traction motors and pack in, to later melt at Run 8.

An empty flat or caboose being pushed did not like deep snow either, as too light, and would certainly derail at grade crossings with snow, ice and road sand packed into the flangeways.

The last thing you want to hit at speed with a caboose on a work train or a light flat is something LARGE, like a cow or a moose, even a big bear.

Hitting a big bear was fun on a track motor car. Thankfully, they usually got up an ran.

Company Officers in a highrail Chev Suburban derailed at speed after hitting something on the tracks, sliding down the bank in a cascade of white hard hats, needing an 8-wheel American Locomotive Crane to rescue the vehicle.

An S4 would derail on rarely-used crossings in winter account ice buildup.

Doesn't take much to lift a flange, on anything.

 In the good old days, wyes and turntables were necessary, when you wished to turn business cars, Plows, spreaders and equipments having end doors for lading.

Some passenger cars had a 'Front' and would have to be turned.

Occasionally they would turn a TOFC flat so the truck tractor could couple to the trailer on the ramp..

 


 

09-03-2009 1:41 AM In reply to
Offline WSOR 3801
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Re: loco turning

 

The single headlight on the rear of the engine is more of a Canadian feature. Most US engines had a twin sealed beam light fixture on both ends.  Usually a plow on the front only, but some roads have them on both ends.  Current FRA regs require a continuous piece across the bottom of the pilot, no big holes under the coupler.  

Some cars need to be turned account a "Unload This Side Only" tag on them. 

09-08-2009 4:16 PM In reply to
Offline GraniteRailroader
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Re: loco turning

WSOR 3801:

Some cars need to be turned account a "Unload This Side Only" tag on them. 

 

 

What tag? 

 

 

09-09-2009 1:02 AM In reply to
Offline WSOR 3801
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Re: loco turning

GraniteRailroader:

What tag? 

 

 

 The ones laying all over the yard. Must have fallen off in transit...
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