General Discussion (Model Railroader)

Hi from Belgium,

Well we have the chance to found PLIOBOND glue here in Belgium for the first time.

After a look at the catalog it seems there is some different type of this fantastic glue.

They have a label of n° 10  20  30....

So which is the right number to use for modeling purposes.

Thanks a lot.

Marc

 What are you using the glue for? It is a contact adhesive and the different numbers on the label may be some sort of viscosity or thickness.

     Pete

In the US, Pliobond is by Goodyear Tire and Rubber and is rubber cement. The solvent content will attack plastic. I can show you cars with badly warped floors including Walthers factory passenger cars which they used it to attach weights.

jsoderq:

In the US, Pliobond is by Goodyear Tire and Rubber and is rubber cement. The solvent content will attack plastic. I can show you cars with badly warped floors including Walthers factory passenger cars which they used it to attach weights.

I'm not sure that the Goodyear part is correct.  I think that Goodyear might have developed it but it appears that the stuff is now made by Ashland Speciality Chemical, http://www.ellsworth.com/ashland.html.  Just a minor technicality.

I agree with the plastic warping comment (although the technical data found at the link below suggests that Pliobond can be used for plastic and plastic film).

Concerning which flavor to use, it looks like the Fast Tracks turnout people are suggesting Pliobond 20 for track work if that is what you are using it for.  See http://www.handlaidtrack.com/pliobond.php 

I've used Pliobond on plastic over the years and never noticed a problem of any kind.  Perhaps it attacks styrene and not other plastics?

BTW, Walther's Goo has a surprisingly similar color, viscosity and smell to the Goodyear Pliobond I've used.  I wonder if they just repackage it? Ken

Hi,

Thanks a lot for all your answers, they were very helpful.

Marc

kenkal:

I've used Pliobond on plastic over the years and never noticed a problem of any kind.  Perhaps it attacks styrene and not other plastics?

BTW, Walther's Goo has a surprisingly similar color, viscosity and smell to the Goodyear Pliobond I've used.  I wonder if they just repackage it? Ken

Years ago I used Walther's Goo to glue brass rail to wood ties which in turn were glued done with white glue to cork.  When I dismantled the layout I pulled up the rails with pliers and almost every tie came with it. 

Enjoy

Paul

I use Pliobond in a tube. I'm not sure how old this one is but we have been using at my club for years to bond the rail to the ties. The tube says Good Year.

We file a notch in the tube tip the width of the rail bottom. We apply a bead of the Pliobond to the bottom of the rail and let it dry. We then position the rail and heat it with a big soldering iron and follow it with a heat sink. Some of this track has been in place for about 30 years. One thing we learned early on is that you should pre bend the track for the curves as sometimes the rail would break loose. It is especially useful when laying light rail in sidings as you don't have spike heads to run afoul with the wheel flanges especially when a member brings in some old equipment with large flanges.