Locomotives

The power that moves the nation’s freight and passenger trains every day. Find out about new locomotives, the fate of old favorites, and ask experts about locomotive performance. If you're new here, please read our forum policies.

Last post 08-02-2009 6:09 AM by Tugboat Tony. 22 replies.
Rate:
Sort Posts:
Page 1 of 2 (23 items) 1 2 Next >
07-11-2009 6:47 PM
Offline Awesome!
Top 500 Contributor
Joined on 03-09-2008
Austin, TX
Posts 824

Video of 9 Locomotives "Old Breed"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUsdRn1aQ3c

Where you could find a long 9 locomotives train? Rare species!!

07-11-2009 7:19 PM In reply to
Offline wabash1
Top 150 Contributor
Joined on 04-22-2001
US
Posts 2,725

Re: Video of 9 Locomotives "Old Breed"

Awesome!:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUsdRn1aQ3c

Where you could find a long 9 locomotives train? Rare species!!

All you need to do is come to st.louis and look at train 111. a train with that many engines is a pain.

07-14-2009 8:45 PM In reply to
Offline FTGT725
Not Ranked
Joined on 01-23-2007
Mooresville, NC
Posts 82

Re: Video of 9 Locomotives "Old Breed"

Call me crazy but I only counted 8 locos.

07-14-2009 9:15 PM In reply to
Offline Kootenay Central
Not Ranked
Joined on 08-20-2005
Posts 318

Re: Video of 9 Locomotives "Old Breed"

 

Great, Thank You!

07-16-2009 7:03 PM In reply to
Offline trainfan1221
Top 150 Contributor
Joined on 07-24-2003
Elmwood Park, NJ
Posts 2,380

Re: Video of 9 Locomotives "Old Breed"

Awesome!:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUsdRn1aQ3c

Where you could find a long 9 locomotives train? Rare species!!

The video froze up while I was watching but I got the general idea.  Nice catch by the videographer.  I would guess that for the most part the GP38s were being moved to someplace rather than being used to power the train.
07-16-2009 10:31 PM In reply to
Offline Awesome!
Top 500 Contributor
Joined on 03-09-2008
Austin, TX
Posts 824

Re: Video of 9 Locomotives "Old Breed"

Whe

trainfan1221:

Awesome!:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUsdRn1aQ3c

Where you could find a long 9 locomotives train? Rare species!!

The video froze up while I was watching but I got the general idea.  Nice catch by the videographer.  I would guess that for the most part the GP38s were being moved to someplace rather than being used to power the train.

Awesome steam video.. Let's be honest to each other. Where you could find long trains been pulled 8 or more locomotives?

07-17-2009 4:31 AM In reply to
Offline wabash1
Top 150 Contributor
Joined on 04-22-2001
US
Posts 2,725

Re: Video of 9 Locomotives "Old Breed"

Awesome!:

Whe

trainfan1221:

Awesome!:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUsdRn1aQ3c

Where you could find a long 9 locomotives train? Rare species!!

The video froze up while I was watching but I got the general idea.  Nice catch by the videographer.  I would guess that for the most part the GP38s were being moved to someplace rather than being used to power the train.

Awesome steam video.. Let's be honest to each other. Where you could find long trains been pulled 8 or more locomotives?

Nowhere in the united states as 8 units on line would get you fired unless they was all 4 axel units and a solid train like coal or grain

07-17-2009 12:19 PM In reply to
Offline WSOR 3801
Top 500 Contributor
Joined on 12-06-2004
WSOR Northern Div.
Posts 1,170

Re: Video of 9 Locomotives "Old Breed"

11 motors here, but only 5 in use.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4P2gjEsDak

Switching with such a consist is poor.  (Yes, I am the engineer on this)

07-17-2009 4:01 PM In reply to
Offline eolafan
Top 75 Contributor
Joined on 12-24-2001
Aurora, IL
Posts 4,154

Re: Video of 9 Locomotives "Old Breed"

WSOR 3801:

11 motors here, but only 5 in use.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4P2gjEsDak

Switching with such a consist is poor.  (Yes, I am the engineer on this)

 

Do you recall which WSOR line you were on and what towns you went through with this monster and what was the reason for so much power?
07-17-2009 4:19 PM In reply to
Offline trainfan1221
Top 150 Contributor
Joined on 07-24-2003
Elmwood Park, NJ
Posts 2,380

Re: Video of 9 Locomotives "Old Breed"

wabash1:

Awesome!:

Whe

trainfan1221:

Awesome!:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUsdRn1aQ3c

Where you could find a long 9 locomotives train? Rare species!!

The video froze up while I was watching but I got the general idea.  Nice catch by the videographer.  I would guess that for the most part the GP38s were being moved to someplace rather than being used to power the train.

Awesome steam video.. Let's be honest to each other. Where you could find long trains been pulled 8 or more locomotives?

Nowhere in the united states as 8 units on line would get you fired unless they was all 4 axel units and a solid train like coal or grain

Hi wabash,

 You got me intrigued by this statement, can you please explain why?

07-17-2009 9:26 PM In reply to
Offline wabash1
Top 150 Contributor
Joined on 04-22-2001
US
Posts 2,725

Re: Video of 9 Locomotives "Old Breed"

with out getting high tech, the rule says you can only have the equivelent of 24 axels on line for power  and 18 axels for dynamic. the key is that you must know what you have,  Dash 8 &9 and those new evo type junk things and the sd60 - 70 are considered 8 axel units . Reason is they are high adhision units rated at 1 1/3 axel for power so 6 axel at regular then the 1/3 x6 = 2 so 2+6=8  a gp38 is a 4 axel unit and is standard so its just 4 a sd 40 is standard axel so its a 6 axel unit. now the AC motors considered 9 axel units because they are rated at 1 1/2 per axel. So if you have a AC unit and 2 dash 9 the total axel count is 25. cant use all 3 unless you cut 1 axel out which takes you to 23 2/3 axels. ( and a reduction in tonnage rating but that is another day topic) or you can do as most guys do and run it as 25 axels and hope you dont get caught. Now if your running a coal train or grain train you can run up to 32 powered axels power and 24 axels dynamic. This does not include radio or DP units. there is differant rules for them. But in reality you might have alot of engines but they all may not be working and most generally they make sure your underpowered over tonnage

07-17-2009 11:20 PM In reply to
Offline Awesome!
Top 500 Contributor
Joined on 03-09-2008
Austin, TX
Posts 824

Re: Video of 9 Locomotives "Old Breed"

wabash1:

with out getting high tech, the rule says you can only have the equivelent of 24 axels on line for power  and 18 axels for dynamic. the key is that you must know what you have,  Dash 8 &9 and those new evo type junk things and the sd60 - 70 are considered 8 axel units . Reason is they are high adhision units rated at 1 1/3 axel for power so 6 axel at regular then the 1/3 x6 = 2 so 2+6=8  a gp38 is a 4 axel unit and is standard so its just 4 a sd 40 is standard axel so its a 6 axel unit. now the AC motors considered 9 axel units because they are rated at 1 1/2 per axel. So if you have a AC unit and 2 dash 9 the total axel count is 25. cant use all 3 unless you cut 1 axel out which takes you to 23 2/3 axels. ( and a reduction in tonnage rating but that is another day topic) or you can do as most guys do and run it as 25 axels and hope you dont get caught. Now if your running a coal train or grain train you can run up to 32 powered axels power and 24 axels dynamic. This does not include radio or DP units. there is differant rules for them. But in reality you might have alot of engines but they all may not be working and most generally they make sure your underpowered over tonnage

If you have a train the same distance for example:

100 Coal

100 Gondolas

100 Oil Tankers

Which of these are heavy to pull and what configuration you would used?

07-19-2009 10:33 PM In reply to
Offline wabash1
Top 150 Contributor
Joined on 04-22-2001
US
Posts 2,725

Re: Video of 9 Locomotives "Old Breed"

Awesome!:

wabash1:

with out getting high tech, the rule says you can only have the equivelent of 24 axels on line for power  and 18 axels for dynamic. the key is that you must know what you have,  Dash 8 &9 and those new evo type junk things and the sd60 - 70 are considered 8 axel units . Reason is they are high adhision units rated at 1 1/3 axel for power so 6 axel at regular then the 1/3 x6 = 2 so 2+6=8  a gp38 is a 4 axel unit and is standard so its just 4 a sd 40 is standard axel so its a 6 axel unit. now the AC motors considered 9 axel units because they are rated at 1 1/2 per axel. So if you have a AC unit and 2 dash 9 the total axel count is 25. cant use all 3 unless you cut 1 axel out which takes you to 23 2/3 axels. ( and a reduction in tonnage rating but that is another day topic) or you can do as most guys do and run it as 25 axels and hope you dont get caught. Now if your running a coal train or grain train you can run up to 32 powered axels power and 24 axels dynamic. This does not include radio or DP units. there is differant rules for them. But in reality you might have alot of engines but they all may not be working and most generally they make sure your underpowered over tonnage

If you have a train the same distance for example:

100 Coal

100 Gondolas

100 Oil Tankers

Which of these are heavy to pull and what configuration you would used?

100 coal is heavier then comes the oil tankers then the gons. and I rather use the sd70s but if i had to i would use the dash 9s

07-22-2009 11:02 AM In reply to
Offline blade
Not Ranked
Joined on 02-20-2005
Posts 158

Re: Video of 9 Locomotives "Old Breed"

wow i seen the video and was simply amazed at all those locomotives i counted eight and it must of have been one duzzy of a long train......i read in a trainsmag about three years ago of the longest train in the australia at 10 000 that is correct ten thousand feet long.

07-23-2009 2:47 AM In reply to
Offline WSOR 3801
Top 500 Contributor
Joined on 12-06-2004
WSOR Northern Div.
Posts 1,170

Re: Video of 9 Locomotives "Old Breed"

eolafan:
Do you recall which WSOR line you were on and what towns you went through with this monster and what was the reason for so much power?
 

Started in Horicon, went down to Slinger, then down the CN to Grand Ave Waukesha, then west to Milton.  The video starts in Eagle, as a good part of the trip is covered in darkness.  

There were over 100 cars, so the train needed a good amount of power.  The rest was to get the power back to Janesville, as power had been accumulating in Horicon for a day or two.  Usually the power that takes the train from Janesville to Horicon goes right back down, with extra sent Saturday morning, as there are only 5 trips down in a week, but 6-7 trips up.  

Page 1 of 2 (23 items) 1 2 Next >
Copyright © 2009 TRAINS.COM
Powered by Community Server (Commercial Edition), by Telligent Systems
Subscriber and Member Login
E-mail Address:
Password:
Remember me
My Profile
Screenname: (get your screenname)
Search Community
in