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07-07-2009 7:34 PM
Offline GP-9_Man11786
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Railroads Vs. Kudzu

 Since moving to the northwestern part of South Carolina about a two months ago I've noticed that those Kudzu vines are litterally everywhere. However I've also noticed the railroads around here do seem to do a good job of keeping their ROW's clear of the stuff. How much time and money do railroads have to spend fending off this weed? I hear it's quite perniciouse.

07-07-2009 9:26 PM In reply to
Offline garr
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Re: Railroads Vs. Kudzu

 Don't know what the cost of controling this vine is for southeastern railroads, but any Southerner worth his grits knows how to plant it.......Throw the seeds on the ground and RUN.

 

Jay

 

07-08-2009 7:51 AM In reply to
Offline tree68
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Re: Railroads Vs. Kudzu

As I understand it, more than a few highway departments thought they could cut costs by planting it along highways - something about less mowing.  I think they now regret that decision...

07-08-2009 8:16 AM In reply to
Offline john_edwards
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Re: Railroads Vs. Kudzu

 It was imported to this country in the 30's (from China I think-not sure) for errosion control.True

 

In the spirit of garr's post: It was used along Georgia's roads to catch runaway chain gang prisoners.

07-08-2009 10:29 AM In reply to
Offline Modelcar
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Re: Railroads Vs. Kudzu

....Once it gets started in the area, that must be awful stuff.  Noticed it at Saluda when we stopped there several years in a row....And from what I've heard about it, it must be almost impossible to stop once it's in an area.  Even gets up in the trees and so on....

07-08-2009 10:47 AM In reply to
Offline vsmith
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Re: Railroads Vs. Kudzu

Does Roundup work on something like Kudzu?

07-08-2009 11:39 AM In reply to
Offline blue streak 1
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Re: Railroads Vs. Kudzu

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 It was imported to this country in the 30's (from China I think-not sure) for errosion control.True

TRUE:  The first actual use was for erosion control at Copperhill, TN  on L&N's Hook and eye. Copper was smelted there and the fumes killed every bit of vegetation of all kinds. It was actually a desert area. Kudzu was planted to hold the soil with only some success. The closer to the smelter the less likely to grow. Unfortunally passers by grabbed the vines and planted them all over the south. The root goes down 4 feet into the ground so very hard for frost to kill.

My way to kill it is to mix up a 5 gallon bucket of Weed-be-gone or Roundup (kind of expensive), place the end of the vines in the bucket, cover bucket to prevent animals from drinking, and let the vines soak up the herbicide for two or three days. Then use the liquid on other pest vegetation.

07-08-2009 3:29 PM In reply to
Offline samfp1943
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Re: Railroads Vs. Kudzu

blue streak 1:

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 It was imported to this country in the 30's (from China I think-not sure) for errosion control.True

TRUE:  The first actual use was for erosion control at Copperhill, TN  on L&N's Hook and eye. Copper was smelted there and the fumes killed every bit of vegetation of all kinds. It was actually a desert area. Kudzu was planted to hold the soil with only some success. The closer to the smelter the less likely to grow. Unfortunally passers by grabbed the vines and planted them all over the south. The root goes down 4 feet into the ground so very hard for frost to kill.

My way to kill it is to mix up a 5 gallon bucket of Weed-be-gone or Roundup (kind of expensive), place the end of the vines in the bucket, cover bucket to prevent animals from drinking, and let the vines soak up the herbicide for two or three days. Then use the liquid on other pest vegetation.

B.S. 1,  and you other guys!   You're missing out on GOOD FOOD!   Kudzu is a food to be enjoyed...Down in Georgia- Home to the Vidalia Onion and Kudzu... Here's a link to a real treat!

http://forum.earthbox.com/index.php?topic=3722.0      A KUDZU QICHE.. 

http://www.azcentral.com/style/hfe/food/articles/2007/03/20/20070320cookingkudzu0320.html

Another source about KUDZU... For those not acquainted with it!

 jUST MAKE SURE YOU'RE NOT IN SOMEBODY'S KUDZU PATYCH THAT HAS BEEN TRYING TO KILL IT

One time down in Mississippi, I watched a cousin use a small CAT to cut out a Kudzu root ( Tuberous root), tghe size of a Datsun; in order to kill off a large patch of it.

07-08-2009 6:08 PM In reply to
Offline vsmith
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Re: Railroads Vs. Kudzu

"You fry the leaves and they're just like potato chips - delicious,"

Which just goes to prove something about the south I've known for years, if you can deep fry it, they'll eat it

07-08-2009 6:22 PM In reply to
Offline eastside
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Re: Railroads Vs. Kudzu

It's from Japan, where it's known as kuzu.  In Japan, it's used as a decorative plant and also harvested for its starch.   Apparently, something there naturally keeps it in check.  I used it for many years for cooking Japanese dishes -- that’s how I was taught to cook some Japanese fried dishes, but never made the connection between the infestation in the South and kuzu starch until recently because I’m a Yankee and the difference in spelling.  It makes a killer batter for fried dishes  The stuff I buy is imported from Japan and costs about $6 a half-pound so I’ve never tried it to make fried chicken, for example. 

07-08-2009 6:57 PM In reply to
Offline Mookie
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Re: Railroads Vs. Kudzu

vsmith:

"You fry the leaves and they're just like potato chips - delicious,"

Which just goes to prove something about the south I've known for years, if you can deep fry it, they'll eat it

Vic - don't they eat Nutria, too?  That would be a main dish with a side.... 
07-08-2009 11:02 PM In reply to
Offline Geared Steam
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Re: Railroads Vs. Kudzu

Mookie:

vsmith:

"You fry the leaves and they're just like potato chips - delicious,"

Which just goes to prove something about the south I've known for years, if you can deep fry it, they'll eat it

Vic - don't they eat Nutria, too?  That would be a main dish with a side.... 
 

 

Your getting Nutra confused with gator


 

 

 

 


 

 

 

07-09-2009 5:18 AM In reply to
Offline CShaveRR
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Re: Railroads Vs. Kudzu

Geared Steam:

Mookie:

vsmith:

"You fry the leaves and they're just like potato chips - delicious,"

Which just goes to prove something about the south I've known for years, if you can deep fry it, they'll eat it

Vic - don't they eat Nutria, too?  That would be a main dish with a side.... 
 

 

You're getting Nutra confused with gator


 

 

 

 


 

 

 

Or Vegemite.
07-09-2009 6:51 AM In reply to
Online Paul_D_North_Jr
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Re: Railroads Vs. Kudzu

Trains - The magazine of railroading . . .

and fine [and not-so-fine] cuisine . . .

and horticulture / invasive plant species management . . .

and vanishing Americana [newspaper delivery boxes, from another thread - zardoz] . . .

and a few other subjects that I can't remember just now . . .

So who needs National Geographic and those other magazines ? 

- PDN.

07-09-2009 3:21 PM In reply to
Offline Geared Steam
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Re: Railroads Vs. Kudzu

vsmith:

"You fry the leaves to me that and they're just like potato chips - delicious,"

Which just goes to prove something about the south I've known for years, if you can deep fry it, they'll eat it

 

From I've read in both of those links, it appears it is being readied to sell to the fruit and nut types out west, you know the ones, slap "natural" and healhty" and they will buy it in droves. The downside is the southern states marketing the "natural exotic healthy fibrous plant" won't accept IOU's from a certain failed western state.   oops!

 

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