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Last post 06-10-2009 10:10 AM by mersenne6. 11 replies.
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06-05-2009 6:30 PM
Offline Fred Bear
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What is this Lionel train?

It came with a bundle of Marx Toys accessories NIB and Lionel Whistling station NIB No 48W. Thanks to all responding, Jake

06-05-2009 6:33 PM In reply to
Offline Fred Bear
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Re: What is this Lionel train?

06-05-2009 7:20 PM In reply to
Offline Fred Bear
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Re: What is this Lionel train?

06-05-2009 9:02 PM In reply to
Offline Dub
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Re: What is this Lionel train?

Fred, it is listed in the 1936 catalog page 9 as the Lionel Jr.Distant Control  Streamliner. The engine coach and observation came in a Set,1066E Distant Control Railroad and sold for 15.95. The engine is the 1700E Distant Control Power car. The coach is 1701 and the observation is the 1702. It was sold with a metal platform 43.5 by 29.5 inches, and had a 1029 transformer and a 1560 station. The train is chrome plated and 29 inches long.

06-05-2009 11:09 PM In reply to
Offline Train-O
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Re: What is this Lionel train?

Dub,

Is the Distant Control the forerunner to the Post War Electronic Control and our presnt TMCC and Legacy systems?

Thank You,

Ralph

06-05-2009 11:38 PM In reply to
Offline lionelsoni
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Re: What is this Lionel train?

Distant control was the e-unit or reversing unit.

06-05-2009 11:49 PM In reply to
Offline Train-O
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Re: What is this Lionel train?

Bob,

Thank you for your answer and would you please tell me what was Automatic Control before that?

I read that Lionel was working on radio control, I believe just prior to and for the up-coming of WW II.

Thank You,

Ralph

06-06-2009 6:38 AM In reply to
Offline Dub
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Re: What is this Lionel train?

Acting as a research assistant, Electronic train control ( the early version )page 692, is in the Service manual Blue hardcover book. I have never seen one. My version was printed by Aurotech in the 80's.

Gee I didn't know about the e unit/ distant control. I just read the catalog from a disc.

06-06-2009 8:54 AM In reply to
Offline lionelsoni
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Re: What is this Lionel train?

Lionel referred to the use of signals like the 078 and 78 "Automatic Train Control" signal to control trains.

Lionel used the term "distant control" also to describe their early remote-control turnouts.

Lionel made locomotives that used the whistle relay instead of interruption of track voltage to step the e-unit.  This allowed a crude kind of two-train operation with a single track and transformer.  This was called "magic electrol".  They also used the whistle relay to operate locomotive couplers.  This was called "teledyne uncoupling".

Lionel made trains with "electronic train control" between 1946 and 1949.  They used voltage bursts at various low frequencies, from 228300 to 352200 hertz, to operate the e-unit, whistle, couplers, and operating cars. 

06-06-2009 11:04 AM In reply to
Offline Train-O
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Re: What is this Lionel train?

Bob,

I thank you for your information, and I know my questions may seem as a pain, but I really did not know of most of Lionel's technical creations and I didn't study electricity and its theorems, that was my father's specialty.

He taught me some of electricity, to pass my science class, but I never wanted to know more at the time, now that I'm older I do want to learn.

Thank you for being patient and understanding.

Ralph

06-09-2009 2:45 PM In reply to
Offline phillyreading
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Re: What is this Lionel train?

 That train set is an articulated set from the 30's, three or four pieces made up the train.

Bob N. gives more detail about the Majic Electrol control than what I read about in a manual that I bought at a train show, the manual came with new train sets during the late 40's to early or mid 50's. In the manual it mentions about two trains running one track and how to control them. Not for sure but I think that the Magic Electrol was sold as a two train set. Also in that manual is a couple of pages on transformer voltage outputs, like terminal A to U or B to U on differant transformers, how to wire accessories was covered also.

Lee F.

06-10-2009 10:10 AM In reply to
Offline mersenne6
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Re: What is this Lionel train?

 

  As has been noted it's Lionel's no-name 0-27 streamliner.  It is based on, and is a fairly decent representation of,  "The Rebel" streamliner of the GM&O - this was the first streamliner built for southern railroads - first year of running was 1935.

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