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05-15-2009 4:05 AM
Offline upjake
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Fs

Are there any railroads that still utilize F7s or F3s besides tourist train operations?
05-15-2009 7:07 AM In reply to
Offline CSSHEGEWISCH
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Re: Fs

Peoria & Western has some ex-CN FP9's that it uses in freight service.  Metro-North may have some FL9's and ex-C&NW F7A's in service on some branches on the New Haven line and as relief power.

05-15-2009 9:40 AM In reply to
Offline MILW205
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Re: Fs

Carolina Southern has a couple -- an A and a B, the latter of which is ex-CN.  Also a few A's in storage.

05-16-2009 9:35 AM In reply to
Offline bubbajustin
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Re: Fs

Well, I know there are some grain elavators that use CF7'S, but not any railroads that use actuall F7's. It really suprised me that the class1's got rid of there F's it seems like the short line and reginols would get rid of them first. Cause thay have lot's of switching to do. But thay did. Hay, RJ Coreman uses 2 F's (7's I think) Also NS uses 2 F's of some sort...
05-16-2009 11:36 AM In reply to
Offline GDRMCo
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Re: Fs

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Well I know there are some grain elevators that use CF7's, but not any railroads that use actual F7's. It really surprised me that the Class 1's got rid of their F's it seems like the short lines and regionals would get rid of them first. Cause they have lots of switching to do. But they did. Hay, RJ Corman uses 2 F's (7's I think) Also NS uses 2 F's of some sort...

 Sorry but how hard is correct spelling and punctuation? Don't want to take offence and sound like the grammar police but spelling and punctuation is easy, even the dim kids at my school got it.

 

OT- Odd theres all that computer script in the post, anyone know how to remove it?

05-16-2009 12:21 PM In reply to
Offline Deggesty
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Re: Fs

GDRMCo:

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Well I know there are some grain elevators that use CF7's, but not any railroads that use actual F7's. It really surprised me that the Class 1's got rid of their F's it seems like the short lines and regionals would get rid of them first. Cause they have lots of switching to do. But they did. Hay, RJ Corman uses 2 F's (7's I think) Also NS uses 2 F's of some sort...

 Sorry but how hard is correct spelling and punctuation? Don't want to take offence and sound like the grammar police but spelling and punctuation is easy, even the dim kids at my school got it.

 

OT- Odd theres all that computer script in the post, anyone know how to remove it?

You missed one--it should be "Hey, RJ Corman...." (unless he is speaking of fodder, as in "hay, fodder, straw's cheaper").

Also, the last line I quoted is better this way--"Odd, there's all that computer script in the post; does anyone know how to remove it?"

I'm sorry, but I have no idea as to how to remove it, so I cannot help you there.

Yes, spelling and punctuation are easy when you are familiar with good writing.

Johnny

05-16-2009 1:03 PM In reply to
Offline GDRMCo
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Re: Fs

Didn't miss it the first time but I accidentally hit back on the browser and lost the changes. When I did the reply again I missed it, woops.
05-16-2009 2:55 PM In reply to
Offline Murphy Siding
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Re: Fs

GDRMCo:

 

Didn't miss it the first time but I accidentally hit back on the browser and lost the changes. When I did the reply again I missed it, woops.
   Well, if we're playing grammar one-upmanship, shouldn't the last word be "oops" ?
05-17-2009 4:38 AM In reply to
Offline GDRMCo
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Re: Fs

It could, but then again it depends on what side of the ditch you're from.
05-17-2009 12:46 PM In reply to
Offline mudchicken
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Re: Fs

Iowa Northern has 2 F40's in almost every day use.

05-17-2009 1:59 PM In reply to
Offline Murphy Siding
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Re: Fs

GDRMCo:
It could, but then again it depends on what side of the ditch you're from.

Fair enough.  I've seen it written as whoops as well.  I apologize for being cranky about the situation.
05-17-2009 4:55 PM In reply to
Offline carnej1
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Re: Fs

bubbajustin:
Well, I know there are some grain elavators that use CF7'S, but not any railroads that use actuall F7's. It really suprised me that the class1's got rid of there F's it seems like the short line and reginols would get rid of them first. Cause thay have lot's of switching to do. But thay did. Hay, RJ Coreman uses 2 F's (7's I think) Also NS uses 2 F's of some sort...

 

 Of course the class one's retired their F units many years before you were born!

The short lines and regionals that rostered F units got them secondhand from the Class 1's so I don't understand your posting ...

 Several of the bigger railroads roster small numbers of rebuilt F units for hauling business and special event trains..

05-17-2009 4:58 PM In reply to
Offline carnej1
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Re: Fs

mudchicken:

Iowa Northern has 2 F40's in almost every day use.

But does an F40PH count as an "F unit"? After all it's a Cowled roadswitcher frame not a "covered wagon"...

05-17-2009 5:15 PM In reply to
Offline wjstix
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Re: Fs

LTV has used some of it's former Erie Mining F9's in recent years on occassionaly runs hauling "fines" (broken taconite pellets), most recently in 2008 I believe, but they haven't been used in everyday service since earlier this decade.

One thing to recall is that GM-EMD starting in maybe the late fifties allowed railroads to "trade in" their older engines as part of the deal in getting new ones, so many first generation FT's and F's were traded in on new GP's with trucks and some other parts being reused. In the sixties GE would take any engine in trade (whether they could use the parts or not) which helped them get business.

05-17-2009 7:03 PM In reply to
Offline bubbajustin
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Re: Fs

carnej1:

mudchicken:

Iowa Northern has 2 F40's in almost every day use.

But does an F40PH count as an "F unit"? After all it's a Cowled roadswitcher frame not a "covered wagon"...

I would count that as an F. A bit boxeir on the front end, but that's ok. I here that it is real hard to see backward out of the locomotives. Especially with 2 or three cabless booster's trailing behind.
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