General Discussion (Classic Trains)

Deggesty:

passengerfan:

In 1942 Pullman delivered two very large lots of Sleeping cars for service on seven RRs name the RRs Name the types of cars and how many would be owned by each RR You do not have to name the cars but it would be nice to have the number owned by each RR and what trains they were assigned to?

Isn't it nice to have tax season over and I can devote more time to the forum?

Yes, Al, it's nice to have you back to perplex our minds.

IC: Panama Limited–2 ea 4C-4BR-2DR, 2 ea 1C-1 DR-3BR Tavern Lounge, 12 ea 6S-6RM-4BR, 2 ea 18 RM, 2 ea 2C-1DR-2BR Observation Lounge

UP: San Francisco Overland–42 ea 6-6-4 and 10 ea 4-4-2 (actually, not assigned to this railroad until 1945, according to Robert Wayner)

C&NW San Francisco Overland–7 ea 6-6-4 and 4 ea 4-4-2 (actually, not assigned to this railroad until 1945 according to Robert Wayner)

SP: San Francisco Overland–11 ea 6-6-4 and 2 ea 4-4-2 (actually, not assigned to this railroad until 1945 according to Robert Wayner) Golden State–11 ea 4-4-2 and 13 ea 6-6-4; these cars were split between SP and CRI&P; neither Car Names Numbers and Consists nor From Zephyr to Amtrak tells us how many were assigned to either road; perhaps since Pullman owned them there was no specific assignation until the split-up of Pullman itself.

CR&P: see SP

MP: Colorado Eagle–4 ea 6-6-4

AT&SFe: Chicago-Kansas City- Tulsa service–3 ea 6-6-4; California Limited–23 ea 6-6-4

Johnny

Al in Stockton

passengerfan:

Great job Johnny and I thought I would have all sunday free to watch football. So its your turn.

Al, surely it did not take longer than one time out to make your last post.Did your computer signal you that there was an answer, and take you away from a game? 

In 1948, Pullman delivered 8 each 14 roomette, 4 bedroom sleepers to the L&A. They were named:

Arthur Stillwell, Colonel Fordyce, Harvey Couch, Job Edson, Leonor Loree, Stuart Knott, William Buchanan, and William Edenborn. What was the significance of these men? Be as specific as you can.

Johnny

Deggesty:

passengerfan:

Great job Johnny and I thought I would have all sunday free to watch football. So its your turn.

Al, surely it did not take longer than one time out to make your last post.Did your computer signal you that there was an answer, and take you away from a game? 

In 1948, Pullman delivered 8 each 14 roomette, 4 bedroom sleepers to the L&A. They were named:

Arthur Stillwell, Colonel Fordyce, Harvey Couch, Job Edson, Leonor Loree, Stuart Knott, William Buchanan, and William Edenborn. What was the significance of these men? Be as specific as you can.

Johnny

Artur Stillwell was responsible for the building the RR that is known as the KCS and was its first President.

Colonel Fordyce became the roads second President in 1900

Stuart Knott became the roads third President from 1900-1903

William Buchanan was one of the founders of the L&A and became the President of the KCS in 1904

Job Edson was President of the KCS from 1905 - 1918 and again from 1920 - 1928 until his death

Leonor Loree was President of the KCS from 1918 - 1920

William Edenborn was one of the founders of the L&A and later became a President of the KCS

Harvey Couch became President of the KCS in 1939 he was responsible for seeing the RR through the growth of WW II and following the war the rebuilding of the KCS into a modern RR system.

Al - in - Stockton  

passengerfan:

Artur Stillwell was responsible for the building the RR that is known as the KCS and was its first President.

Colonel Fordyce became the roads second President in 1900

Stuart Knott became the roads third President from 1900-1903

William Buchanan was one of the founders of the L&A and became the President of the KCS in 1904

Job Edson was President of the KCS from 1905 - 1918 and again from 1920 - 1928 until his death

Leonor Loree was President of the KCS from 1918 - 1920

William Edenborn was one of the founders of the L&A and later became a President of the KCS

Harvey Couch became President of the KCS in 1939 he was responsible for seeing the RR through the growth of WW II and following the war the rebuilding of the KCS into a modern RR system.

I find it interesting that the L&A (1896) came into being before the LR&N (1903); did Mr. Edenborn, after helping found leave the L&A, it for the LR&N? In 1929, the LR&N became a part of the L&A.

Your question.

Johnny

When the Railroads had there lightweight streamlined cars built by the manufacturers they were constructed of Cor-Ten Steel, Stainless Steel and Aluminum my question is which RRs had cars manufactured of Auminum?

Al - in - Stockton

Deggesty:

I find it interesting that the L&A (1896) came into being before the LR&N (1903); did Mr. Edenborn, after helping found leave the L&A, it for the LR&N? In 1929, the LR&N became a part of the L&A.

Mike

wanswheel:

 Johnny, here's something:

"The Louisiana Railway and Navigation Company, organized in 1896 by William Edenborn as the Shreveport and Red River Valley Railway Co., was re-organized May 9, 1903, as Louisiana Railway and Navigation Co. It was known as the Edenborn Line and was completed and placed in operation October 1, 1906, as the short line between Shreveport and New Orleans. This line was owned outright by Mr. Edenborn, the only railroad in the U.S. owned by one individual."

the "Stillwell Oyster Car is interesting. It took me a moment to remember that the Kansas City Pittsburg and Gulf was the previous name of the KCS--and (I just discovered, in Railroad Names) the successor to the Kansas City Nevada and Ft. Smith. Were the oysters intended for Mr. Stillwell's own table? Some people do like oysters.

Thanks, Mike

Johnny

Deggesty:

Some people do like oysters.

No takers yet on the RRs that operated Aluminum lightweight streamlined cars. I came up with twelve.

Al in Stockton

passengerfan:

No takers yet on the RRs that operated Aluminum lightweight streamlined cars. I came up with twelve.

Al in Stockton

I'll start - the Union Pacific

           - the G&MO with their Abraham Lincoln and Ann Rutledge train sets. 

Before the CN Turbos there was the Tempo cars which recently returned to Canada after a number of years serving as the Ski Train out of Denver

Al - in - Stockton.

passengerfan:

the Tempo cars which recently returned to Canada after a number of years serving as the Ski Train out of Denver

Texas Zepher:

passengerfan:

the Tempo cars which recently returned to Canada after a number of years serving as the Ski Train out of Denver

And ugly cars they were/are.  Very strange roof profile.

Al - in - Stockton