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Last post 06-24-2008 5:49 PM by coldstorage5. 22 replies.
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06-19-2008 9:00 PM In reply to
Offline lionelsoni
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Re: 0 31 gauge questions/ Williams Diesels

My first Lionel was a 2243 pair that I got in 1955 (birthday? Christmas?).  I saved my allowance and bought the four silver 2400-type cars one by one, fortunately never noticing how much bigger the locomotive was than the cars and blissfully unaware of the aluminum cars; so I never had any trouble with my two 1122 turnouts.
06-19-2008 11:03 PM In reply to
Offline RockIsland52
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Re: 0 31 gauge questions/ Williams Diesels

Bob.....as kids, with trains we could care less about mixing scales and/or pursuing realism. It was about imagination and the fun factor.   At one point on the train board I had a huge Remco Bulldog tank, an Eldon 1:32 scale slot car track, and model airplanes in the mix that spanned Spad and Fokker biplanes and triplanes to Sabre jets to Sky King's Songbird Cessna 310B.

We were quite respectful of others and their trains.  My friend with the SF F3s loved the quickness and speed of my RI 2031s, but there was no mistaking his F3 could pull as many cars as we could muster: passenger, freight, military.

Those green plastic soldiers weren't a fit either....to an adult. 

Jack

06-20-2008 9:21 AM In reply to
Offline zwbob
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Re: 0 31 gauge questions/ Williams Diesels

Our family bought a used 2343 AA in the early 60's and we ran it on 027 1122 switches with no problems. I used those switches up till about 4 years ago. The switches were sold off but the 2343 still runs like charm.

06-20-2008 9:10 PM In reply to
Offline 3railguy
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Re: 0 31 gauge questions/ Williams Diesels

 coldstorage5 wrote:

I bought 3.....

the GG-1 Semi scale Pennsylavania Electric

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=390000050263&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=026

,   General Electrics U33C  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=150258105007&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=005

 

and Fairbanks-Morse Train Master FM 109

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=380036647703&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=025

 

So What do you think??

 

Am I good, or do i need to change??

Thanx,

CS

 You did quite well. Especially with the more realistic True Blast horn. The running boards of Lionel Trainmasters interfere with 027 switch machines so it is likely the Williams model will too but I am not 100% sure. Depends on the truck pivot spacing. You can buy 031 track and 022 switches on ebay all day for dirt cheap. Fastrack has killed the market for it. 

I have a set of Lionel 2383's and by golly, the fuel tanks do clear 027 switch machines.

06-21-2008 9:13 AM In reply to
Offline lionelsoni
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Re: 0 31 gauge questions/ Williams Diesels

John, you're right about the Lionel Train Master.  The center bearings are close to the outboard ends of the trucks.  But that means that there is a hope that the Williams version would clear--if they were clever enough to move those pivots to the other end of those rather long trucks.

I run the Lionel locomotive on O27, but with several modifications:  The most drastic is the removal of the fuel tank, so that the body swings over the switch machines instead of hitting them.  I also rotated the pickup assemblies 180 degrees, to get the rollers closer to the middle axle, which has flanged wheels.  Otherwise, the swingout of the blind wheels makes the roller short out on the O27 turnouts.  I also enlarged the keyholes for the center bearings to allow the trucks to pivot through a slightly greater angle and trimmed a little off the field coil bobbins for the same purpose.

Indeed, the 2383 has no problem at all with O27, because of the vertical-motor geometry.  I run mine with a couple of 2243C B units, which are a perfect match for the 2383's black trucks.  That's supposed to be the way that Santa Fe did it, with the A and B units bolted, not coupled, together.  You had to pay extra for couplers.

06-23-2008 10:06 PM In reply to
Offline coldstorage5
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Re: 0 31 gauge questions/ Williams Diesels

Thanx for getting back to me,

 

I have fastrack with 36 switches,  I believe this will be ok with these trains????

06-24-2008 7:38 AM In reply to
Offline lionelsoni
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Re: 0 31 gauge questions/ Williams Diesels

I could swear you said, "I have a 0 27 guage Lionel setup."
06-24-2008 5:49 PM In reply to
Offline coldstorage5
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Re: 0 31 gauge questions/ Williams Diesels

Your right...

 

I have fastrack... I bought these   http://cgi.ebay.com/Lionel-Fastrack-O36-Right-Hand-Remote-Switch-612046-036_W0QQitemZ150262759085QQihZ005QQcategoryZ4148QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

The Trains arrived today... I tried the LV FM 109  and the GG1

 

Both ran great.  Bells sound great.  The horn, a little muffled.

 I do feel happy.

 

Thanx,

Steve

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