Does the bell toll for RBLs?

Can't disagree with you, Eric; I think it's been over 25 years since the last RBLs were built (other than that clunky-looking IBOX prototype).

Come to think of it, we usually see the imported Mexican beer arrive at Proviso in RBLs during the winter to keep it from freezing.  Not this past year, though--they used the same box cars all winter.  (Those exotic old box cars are one of the perks of my job--and I don't even drink!)

I can't imagine that plug doors afford that much better temperature control than sliding doors, but most new box cars from the past several years have had them.  I would say that if no RBLs come out in the next five years or so, you're probably right.

This is where I have to ask:  What does "RBL" mean? 

al-in-chgo wrote:

This is where I have to ask:  What does "RBL" mean?

RBL=insulated plug door boxcar.  Wisconsin southern has quite a few RBLs, and several of these have one of a kind markings, such as the 9/11 RBL, the model railroader 70th anniversary RBL, and the Athearn 50th anniversary RBL  Recently, WSOR painted a RBL pink for cancer awareness.      

al-in-chgo wrote:

This is where I have to ask:  What does "RBL" mean?

Here are the definitions from the ORER.

"RB - Bunkerless refrigerator car with or without ventilating devices and with or without device for attaching portable heaters. Constructed with insulation in sides, ends, floor and roof to meet maximum UA factor requirement of 250 BTU/F/Hour for 50 foot cars and 300 BTU/F/Hour for 60 foot cars. Effective for cars ordered new after March 1, 1984. Note: Cars built prior to March 1, 1984, must have been constructed with a minimum 3 in. of insulation in the sides and ends and 3-1/2 in. in floor and roof based on the insulation requirements given in AAR Standard S-2010 or a thickness reduced in proportion to the thermal conductivity of the insulation

"RBL - Car similar in construction to an 'RB' type car, but equipped in addition with adjustable loading or stowing device."

In other words, an RBL is a reefer with no means to cool the load that has a maximum heat transfer rate (or minimum insulation) and is equipped with load restraints. It may have ventilation and/or provisions for heaters.

Carl, perhaps that plug doors are to keep dust and moisture out. How much do sliding doors let in?

I thought that National Steel Car built the TTX IBOX Double-Plugged Door Boxcars a few years ago. I printed out that page because I thought they were a great new version of the Evans Products Double-Plugged Door Boxcars. Now National Steel Car has completely changed their website.

Andrew Falconer

Andrew Falconer

I thought that National Steel Car built the TTX IBOX Double-Plugged Door Boxcars a few years ago. I printed out that page because I thought they were a great new version of the Evans Products Double-Plugged Door Boxcars. Now National Steel Car has completely changed their website.

Andrew Falconer

It was Gunderson.

Looks like I was more tired at the time I posted than I thought.

In a magazine like RailModel Journal it was mentioned that sometime in the 1970's or 1980's there was a series of Western Maryland RBLs that were scrapped after no more than 18 years of service.

Are RBLs considered "disposable" when compared to other freight car types because they have to always be in great shape or they are unusable?

Andrew

ericsp wrote:

Carl, does the QNPSKP seem to have more XM, or XP, boxcars and less RBL boxcars than a few years ago?

Sorry for the week-or-more delay (just back from vacation), Eric--truth is, I don't know, since I rarely see this train (we don't have to switch it out).  If you have a consist from "a few years ago", I might be able to compare it to a few present-day consists, but that would be just a snapshot instead of the whole picture, I'm sure.

The newest of the SP 50' RBLs with 8' and 6' doors turn 40 this year. Judging from the lack of this car type within the past few years, which once common around here, they must have never had a Rule 88 rebuild. It is a shame to see the end of one of my favorite types of cars.

With Greenbrier box car the railroads have to choose between a heavy-duty plug door box car and a Refrigerated Box Car. There is nothing else listed at insulated.

http://www.gbrx.com/Box_Cars.php?expandable=0

Andrew

The Del Monte cannery in Kingsburg used to ship exclusively in RBLs. I went by there a couple of days ago. There were 5 XM/XP boxcars and no RBLs there.

A fair number of the WSOR RBLs are running up against the 40-year rule, and are going away.  Not really any in-kind replacements around, so other car types are getting used.  Going to be difficult for the canneries that have doors spaced for the RBLs. 

ATW 151xxx 50' hi-cube boxes were used a little while ago, with the proper forklift allowed quite a bit more product in the car.  Now some 60' inside length boxes are being used when RBLs haven't come back.  MET RBLs still show up from time to time as well. 

Has anybody seen any new RBLs in the past several years?

Not here!  And that WSOR fleet has been pretty well decimated now.

Good news!  Cryo Trans has 50 RBLs on order.

http://www.mhwgroup.com/news/item/113-cryo-trans-inc-announces-new-build-of-super-insulated-boxcars

I was in Portland last week. The cars are currently being delivered. There were several visible at the Gunderson facility along Front Avenue, next to the BNSF Lake Yard.

John Timm

That would be good news.

However, the picture shown with that article is of CRYX 5700, a mechanical reefer.  It would be nice to have a number off the new production (which should be in use soon, if not now, according to the release) so we can check it out.

Judging from recent deliveries of all types of refrigerator and box cars, the new cars will be RBs, not RBLs. 

According to BNSF, they are CRYX 6000-6049.

Yup!  RB!  There you go!