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Last post 02-16-2008 5:16 PM by thankey. 3 replies.
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02-16-2008 5:16 PM
Offline thankey
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Lionel insulated track

CTT has a diagram for an electronic control for a signal bridge / block signal that I'm attempting to build. The power pack is a LW and the track is O-27.

I inserted a single insulated straight (6-12841), with a 6-14112 lighted lock-on, between two curves and pulled out the metal pin on one of the curve pieces to accept the insulated pin. I wanted to see the light come on as the train passed before I went any farther.

To my surprise, the light came on as soon as the power was applied to the track, train or no train. Something must be completing the circuit.

I took off the track clips and replaced the lighted loch-on with a plain CTC with a voltage meter attached. The voltage meter followed the voltage as it was applied.

I then removed the insulated straight and checked it with the VOM set on resistance. It checked out with a "short" across the two outside rails but the center rail was insulated.

I replaced it with another new carded piece and it seems ok. The lighted lock on only illuminates when a train is present.

How do you fix an insulated track? The would-be insulated rail has a black material just like the center rail. How do I find out where the short is?

Thanks, as always.

02-16-2008 5:56 PM In reply to
Offline Crabby44
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Re: Lionel insulated track

It sounds like the insulated rail is truly not insulated. Make sure that the end of the rail is not touching the next piece of track. The fiber pins have a step in the middle to keep the rails separate. Also, make sure that the cardboard insulators do not have any holes in them. I have seen instances where people have used electrical tape as an insulator. When the rail is clamped in place, sometimes the bracket pokes a small hole in the tape and negates the insulation.
02-16-2008 6:15 PM In reply to
Online lionelsoni
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Joined on 12-27-2001
Austin, TX
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Re: Lionel insulated track

You might be able to find it with heat.  If you connect your transformer to the two outside rails, the fault may heat up enough for you to feel it before the circuit breaker trips.

Of course, you can remove the "insulated" rail and look at the insulators.  If you reach this point, consider removing them one-by-one.  You might get lucky and only have to remove one or two.

02-16-2008 6:22 PM In reply to
Offline jmsiv
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Joined on 12-21-2005
NJ
Posts 275

Re: Lionel insulated track

I also had this problem with a factory insulated track. I found one of the insulating pieces if card had a tear. I now make my own, less work than trying to repair one of theirs. I use match book covers for the insulation. they work great.
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