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10-17-2007 2:30 PM
Offline Alan_B
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UpDate - Need N gage help on loco's - rolling stock

I am posting this on both the general and layout forums in order to get as much input as possible.

I have an HO layout in my basement that a health condition will prevent me from accessing in a few months.  In order to continue with my model railroading hobby; I am considering building a long narrow N scale layout to fit on one wall in my bedroom/office.  I have a 17' wall space to use.  The shelf layout must be reachable from a desk chair.  Since it will run over the head of the bed; operational reach is limited to about 7' on the left hand end (the rest will be viewable rail for operations ).

I am looking at something fairly simple - as long as possible continuous run loop with some simple switching to add a little actual operations.  I would like to keep the cost down; however, cost is not a major factor.  I need to do the basic scenic work in my basement workshop and then move the layout to the upstairs location for final detailing.

I can get the layout below out of one sheet of plywood in two 8' sections to be joined together and mounted to the wall with angle brackets (about 34" above floor ).  I can get the basic scenery done while my health permits (especially the right side which will be unreachable for basic scenery work).  I will be able to reach the left side for work in place.  The layout shown is a rough approximation.  I will use flex track with peco #6 turnouts (flipped with a finger - no switch machines).  Minimum radius shown is 11".  I have a Zephyr DCC system on my workbench witch will be moved to this layout.  The layout shown is 16' long with 26" width in the two end sections with about 8" width in the narrow section.  I am fully capable of doing all of the construction work; I am asking for help on the N gage equipment issues.



Setting will be western/mid-western open space.  Time period is diesel era - no specific time period (should be relatively modern though).  I want a road freight loco and small switcher for "yard" use. 

Other than being western/mid-western, I don't care about road name.  I will get about 20 mixed freight cars to use.  All locos and rolling stock must be RTR with factory DCC (sound in the road loco would be nice; however, it seems to be non-available ).  Buildings and scenic items will be added as necessary and are not specific yet ( probably a mix of kits and scratch built ).

My reason for posting is that I don't know much about N gage equipment.  What brands of loco's are considered most reliable and good runners ?  What about brands of rolling stock ?  I figure that I have enough time to build the layout; but not enough to worry about loco's and rolling stock (therefore RTR loco's and rolling stock).  I understand that there are coupler issues in N scale - is this true ?

I will walk into Caboose Hobbies, in Denver, to purchase most items - any brand (or specific) recommendations for me on loco's and rolling stock to buy or to stay away from ?

10-17-2007 3:00 PM In reply to
Offline pcarrell
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Re: Need N gage help on loco's - rolling stock

Atlas and Kato make some really nice diesels.  Intermountain and PCM diesels are also very nice.  Atlas and Microtrains make some excellent RTR rolling stock.
10-17-2007 8:20 PM In reply to
Offline Alan_B
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Re: Need N gage help on loco's - rolling stock

 pcarrell wrote:
Atlas and Kato make some really nice diesels.  Intermountain and PCM diesels are also very nice.  Atlas and Microtrains make some excellent RTR rolling stock.

Thanks Philip -  I will add these to the good-to-buy list.

 

10-18-2007 4:56 AM In reply to
Offline ATSFCLIFF
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Re: Need N gage help on loco's - rolling stock

Agree with pcarrell. For good running, well detailed diesels, you would not go wrong with Kato, Atlas and Intermountain. For RTR rolling stock you can add Red Caboose, Intermountain and deluxe innovations to your list.

Cheers, 

 

10-19-2007 2:27 PM In reply to
Offline Alan_B
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Re: Need N gage help on loco's - rolling stock

 ATSFCLIFF wrote:

Agree with pcarrell. For good running, well detailed diesels, you would not go wrong with Kato, Atlas and Intermountain. For RTR rolling stock you can add Red Caboose, Intermountain and deluxe innovations to your list.

Cheers, 

 

I just got back from Caboose Hobbies.  Two Atlas loco's, a mix of brands on 19 freight cars, track, turnouts, cork, and misc other stuff.  Here it all is sitting on  piece of ply destined to become a test track for break-in and skill building.

Thanks to all that answered.  you ended up helping me spend $750. Big Smile [:D]

 

10-20-2007 4:48 AM In reply to
Offline Canondale61
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Re: Need N gage help on loco's - rolling stock

Keep us posted with pics of this new empire.
Kevin
10-20-2007 12:12 PM In reply to
Offline Alan_B
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Re: Need N gage help on loco's - rolling stock

 Canondale61 wrote:
Keep us posted with pics of this new empire.
Kevin

I posted this on the general forum; but forgot to post it here.

I have built a simple oval for loco break-in and testing ( 140" of track).  Both loco's now have about 2 hrs each of running.  They both run great from a dead slow crawl to about a scale 80 mph.

For all of you Digitrax Zephyr fans: note that I had to break out the manual to change the loco's address.  I never need the manual for my Prodigy Advance (on the HO layout).  I have been using the Zephyr for months on my workbench with decoder pro (did not want to drag the computer interface upstairs today).

I set the oval up beside the bed on a couple of sawhorses.  All of the other stuff (except the rolling stock ) will end up in my basement shop.

Here is picture of both loco's actually running.

It may be late next week; however, I will document the new layout construction when I get started.  Based on the two loco's; it looks like my time period will be around 1970.

Thanks to all of you for your help.

10-20-2007 9:26 PM In reply to
Offline Canondale61
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Re: Need N gage help on loco's - rolling stock

Have you gone to David V. Pennsy site. He has an N gauge on a door that might interest you.

Kevin

10-20-2007 9:54 PM In reply to
Offline Alan_B
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Re: Need N gage help on loco's - rolling stock

 Canondale61 wrote:

Have you gone to David V. Pennsy site. He has an N gauge on a door that might interest you.

Kevin

I know about David's door layout.  It is extremely well done and interesting.

I do not have the space for a door sized layout, or even the temporary 30" x 60" loop that I am playing with now.  The present loop is just a quick way to test everything out and break-in the loco's.  It will disappear shortly and give me back the room between my desk chair and the bed.

I do have the room for the shelf layout that I will begin building next week.  I will build the right side ( 8' long ) in my basement shop and just bring it upstairs and install it.  The left side ( 8' ) will be assembled and ready for landscaping when it is brought up.  The final landscaping and detail work (buildings, ect.) will be done in place.  Surface area wise, it will be about 30 sq feet and will fit one wall easily without impacting the use of the room.

Nice of you the think about it though.  Thanks.

 

10-23-2007 1:22 PM In reply to
Offline jjbmish
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Re: Need N gage help on loco's - rolling stock

Good Luck with the new layout, based on your previous work, I am planning on seeing it move along very rapidly.  Keep us informed on how it's going!!  Your photo's have been great to watch on your other layout.

 

John

10-23-2007 2:46 PM In reply to
Offline Alan_B
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Re: Need N gage help on loco's - rolling stock

 jjbmish wrote:

Good Luck with the new layout, based on your previous work, I am planning on seeing it move along very rapidly.  Keep us informed on how it's going!!  Your photo's have been great to watch on your other layout.

 

John

Thanks John for the nice comments.  I bought a sheet of 1/2" ply and a sheet of 3/16" Masonite yesterday for construction.  I am going to lay cork roadbed on the ply and use the Masonite for backdrop and fascia.  Except for the wall side straight run; there will not be any grades.  The back track grade will be about 1.5% and is just to get some visual separation across the narrow center section.

I will start layout of the track centers today and will document the process in case it will help some one else.  Yes, time is short so I will have to hustle along.  I will probably start a new thread; as soon as I can come up with a catchy name for the layout and it's single community (town ?).

 

10-23-2007 3:41 PM In reply to
Offline pcarrell
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Re: Need N gage help on loco's - rolling stock

 Alan_B wrote:
I will probably start a new thread; as soon as I can come up with a catchy name for the layout and it's single community (town ?)

How about "Singleton"? Big Smile [:D]

10-23-2007 8:15 PM In reply to
Offline Canondale61
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Re: Need N gage help on loco's - rolling stock

Please keep us posted on your work. I really have missed the story of between a rock and a hardspot rr. Take care.

Kevin

10-23-2007 9:22 PM In reply to
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Re: Need N gage help on loco's - rolling stock

 Canondale61 wrote:

Please keep us posted on your work. I really have missed the story of between a rock and a hardspot rr. Take care.

Kevin

I will keep everyone updated.  As soon as I get the heavy stuff done; I will get back to the BAH RR for as long as I can get to it (at some point, going up and down to the basement will be beyond my physical ability).  Then I will get back to detailing the new N layout.

 pcarrell wrote:

 Alan_B wrote:
I will probably start a new thread; as soon as I can come up with a catchy name for the layout and it's single community (town ?)

How about "Singleton"? Big Smile [:D]

Singleton does not really hit the "that-is-it" button for me - thanks for the try.

 

10-23-2007 11:15 PM In reply to
Offline Vail and Southwestern RR
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Re: Need N gage help on loco's - rolling stock

Probably not Singletown, either, huh?  Big Smile [:D]
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