Whats your favorite loco?

[gregrudd]

Arh yes the the Kawasaki DD cars that were based upon Australian  designs.

 

Note the simmilarities.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Cityrail-Lset-2-ext.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Cityrail-Vset-11.jpg

http://www.cityrail.info/aboutus/trains/v_control.jsp

http://www.cityrail.info/aboutus/trains/v_trailer.jsp

 

[Thumper_KJFK]

 

yep    that's it,   hear are a bunch of cars still in shrink-wrap. The cars are still on flatbed trucks after unloading from a cargo ship from Japan. 

http://www.thejoekorner.com/scripted-photo-display.shtm?http://thejoekorner.quuxuum.org/lirr/LIRRdd2.JPG^LIRR%20-%20Double%20Deckers%20-%201999%20-%20in%20New%20Jersey

 

[gregrudd]

Apparently the prototype cars were supposed to built in Australia.  But what happened was that Commonweath Engineering was taken over by corporate raders in the 1980's to asset strip the company and pulled out at the 11th hour and then gave the designs to Kawasaki.  As you can see the design is very much based upon NSW "V" set trailer indeed the head desingner was the same guy who desinged the "V" set.

[Thumper_KJFK]

jezzz   That is something Even I did not nor do a lot of people who put all the cars together and still today on my way home there were 17 specal flatbed train cars full of more doubble deckersj and that photo was shot way back in 1999  and hear it is 2007 and we are still getting new fresh shipments via rail road flatbeds,  over the hiway flatbed trucks and the shops across the street forom my house is busy round the clock doing priep work on new cars and cars already in service that need insp.  this it the first full New order implemtation on all pasanger cars at one time the entire fleet is being replaced thats a few thousand passenger cars. And thinking of what happend to the orders your country LOST billions of dollors and Jobs because of a few Jerks NOW That is Sad very Sad jezzz

 

 Thank you soo much on the great info,   I never even thought of all the new things you told me about

and i Will pass it onto my Rail fan club members and a lot of my buds who work on the LIRR  shops  :D

 

       Cheers  Greg nyc 

[gregrudd]

I probably should add apparently the LIRR took a trip around the world in the mid 1980's to investigate DD rolling stock  in the world.  When they came down to Australia they had a look at the V set cars which as a design had been around since 1969.  Their eyes popped out and said that at the time they thought the V set cars were 20 years more advanced than anything they had seen to that time.  From what I recall the Kawasaki built prototypes arrived in the late 1980's/early 1990's just as Commonwealth Engineering had been wound up and the remains of the business were sold to ABB.  As to the last of the V's they are a very good thing indeed 

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_set_(CityRail)#Final_batch_.28DKM_.26_DKT.29

I have often thought that V set cars now that most of the South Shore line has high level platforms would fit in very well indeed and the Tangara/M set would work well on the Metra Electric lines in Chicago un-modified.  

 

Yeah it is interesting that Sydneys Australia's next generation rolling stock will actually be constructed in China and only assembled locally by the lead consortium member.  Unlike previous rolling stock orders these cars will be owned and maintained by a consortium of finance and manufacturing companies and leased to the government on a daily basis for the next 35 years. The NSW government made a decision to allow minimum of 20% local content where as previous orders where the government purchased outright they have insisted upon local content requirements of a minimum  75%. Which I might add the same lead consortium member also built the previous lot of 120 cars with the higher level of local content under full purchase and maintain contract.  The reason that they made the local content requirments so low was to encorage more finance companies and overseas manufacturers to bid on the 450 car order.   But with all that being said the fundementals of this new design are very good indeed with Hitachi electricals.  

[Thumper_KJFK]

  sorry on my reply delay, fri no work off  and last night started a long 15.5hour flight in flight sim X. And will be flying the whole flight in one shot no sleeping or putting it on pause. flight plan none stop from Kennedy int. KJFK. to Hong Kong int. VHHH 7,519.8 nautical miles With a total fuel burn of 324,539.7lbs. of JetAfuel.

hear is a link to my photo page I just put up a few screen shots i just took over canada at 37,000 feet AGL, and keep clicking the thumbs at bottom of thumbe tree to addvance the photo trainz photo at bottom got to get back up on deck i hear ATC calling me andi dont wont to hit wrong key while flying cheere greg nyc

http://www.frappr.com/?a=viewphoto&id=2085322&pid=4635016                            

[DMUinCT]

Guess

[Thumper_KJFK]

 

 

 

 Hi  DMUinCT:     are you kidding?   :D    anybody living in the TryState aera of NY, NJ, AND CT Should know this One.      A 4-6-4 Hudson    That was run up and down the bordors of NYS CT. and NJ  lol   and most famous was on the NYCentral Hudson division along the Hudson River  

 

                              IT'S  A         Hudson 4-6-4




[imghttp://www.castlegraphics.com/photo/albums/transportation/railroad/steam/cbq/hudson_4-6-4/cbq_3003_4-6-4_st_paul_mn_aug29-1934.jpg[/img]

 

 greg nyc 

[Thumper_KJFK]

ohh look what I found in my Photos     A Live Steam NYCENTRAL  hudson

 

 

 

 Enjoy     greg   nyc 

[DMUinCT]

The original J3As are long gone but this 3 foot long "Gauge One" model in my back yard will have to do.

[Thumper_KJFK]

Wow, and I just thought that you took photos of them, But nope. you have her out back only a few feew away,:D I must say How beautiful she is. How larg is your layout, and if big, do others come over to run there models on it?    Sadly I do not have real Models, anymore, but still build and model in Trainz simulator, where I run the entire NEC Wash DC, Boston Broken up into 3 separate layouts  Bos>NY, NY>PHIL. PHIL>Harrisburge.   yes I know that it is not something that I can ride on or touch, but I do have Fun :D

Firemans view looking fwd from the bunker 

 

Or helping out whith money donations to keep this project going. Chesapeake & Ohio 614.  a 4-8-4 Greenbrier a Lima J-3, which in 1996, the overhaul was complete and it was moved to Hoboken, New Jersey, where for the next three years, it pulled a series of very successful excursions to Port Jervis, New York, and return.  These excursions really put to the test how well a Lima product is built. 614 was required to pull 26 cars at 79 mph at some sections, and maintain speed up several hills. During this time 614 was equipped with cab signals, 26L brakes, speed control, and an MU stand. Since then, 614 has been moved to storage on the Reading and Northern Railroad in Port Clinton, Pennsylvania.  no serious work has been done to the engine. Just preventative maintenance mostly. 614 will require a complete overhaul/boiler inspection/rebuild in accordance with the new FRA regs for steam locomotives that went into affect a few years ago.  It's just sad thing to hear, for If I recall reading, back when steam power ran everything, steam locos were comeing off the assembly line at a rather fast pase, and it did not cost a Billion bucks to biuld eather lol

 

 

[DMUinCT]

Then there is the 56 inch long Gauge One model of the UP Challenger by MTH.

And a Real "Cab Shot" of todays "state of the art" train.

[Thumper_KJFK]

:) HAY I know that Cab. Accela I have had the chance to ride the Left hand seat, all the way from NY>Wash. round trip. with one of my neighbors, he's an engineer with Amtrak :D way cool shot nice. just in frot of and to the right of the Challenger What road is that, looks to be old SP but not good shot of the loco still very nice location photo of the UP . Hear are two night photos hear on the Long Island rail road's new a.c.-traction DUAL MODE locomotive's made by GM EMD. I also put in some of my own cabs that I have placed in my Trainz lotomotive roster, a few ero locos, but mostly USA Steam, and SD series using the old clasic break stand, and the new digital and combo digital/analog cabs. and kind of my fav. for driving is the SD75-I's high horsepower diesel engines, kicking butt on the steep grades found on the east cost, while draging long heavy coal and stone cars up and down those long long hills, while I find the challange is the 3.5% grads on the down side of the hill that you and the loco get a real work out, keeping at bay all the tons behind you pushing , heee :) yeh a lot of long time spent in Notch 8 Dynamic break

[DMUinCT]

I was doing a photo shoot for Amtrak Training, you make a lot of friends that way. The small shot in the uper left is me in the left seat.  Everything was covered and I loved it.  Firefighting, the "soft top" on the cars for rescue, rescue ladders at the end of each car, even the way the locomotive seats pivit to dump you behind a guard beam. We rode north from New Haven to Boston hitting 150 in Rhode Island.  Did you know, up here in New England, 5 people have been struck and killed by the Acela (and one deer). It can come up on you fast.

LEFT SEAT DISPLAY AT FULL SPEED!  Note, in motion, doors can only be opened with a "card readed".  One set of door are on bypass (yellow bar on left).

[Thumper_KJFK]

And while we are on the subject of cabs,  just would like to show you the Other type of cab I Use  forgive me for going Way>>>>off subject :)