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Minde the Gap or crash.

  • I may not know my spelling but I do know my physics. Ever time the wheel hits the gap it pushes the rails apart. This will start to weaken the bar holding the two rails together. The bigger the gap the greater the impact.
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  • Whoopee.

    First of all you were trespassing to do that and sticking your hand in the rails is pretty darn stupid if I do say so myself.

    Second of all, it always bugs me when railfans who think they know it all concern themselves with these things. If you think its a problem call the railroad. Let them decide.

    The first 3 feet of a rail where there is a joint always take the most impact from passing trains. Thats why with recycled 39' sections, they cut 3 feet off each end and reuse it making a 33' section.

    Thirdly, there needs to be a gap for EXPANSION.

    If your the expert you claim to be, you know that in the summer, if the expansion gap is not big enough there will be a HEAT KINK there, and that will cause the train to derail more than a gap!

    Fourthly, rails aren't rigid, so your little diagram is mis-leading, the rail will compress under the weight... Find a place where the trains roll by slow and watch the flexing.

    So your ideas and concerns are as flawed as your spelling....
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  • Dave, took the words right out of my mouth.
    Ham, your picture also clearly shows the damage on the RAIL, not on the joint bar. When the RAIL is damaged, that takes ENERGY out of the impact.

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  • Well it’s not like I go down to the tracks to look for problems, I walk down the track to get to a bus stop and I just happen upon this stuff on my journey. Oh and about your comment “Thirdly, there needs to be a gap for EXPANSION.” What about CWR? I do know about railroad tracks and how they work I have even helped build railroad tracks, not rebuild, not fix, but put down new tracks.
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  • QUOTE: Originally posted by Ham549

    Well it’s not like I go down to the tracks to look for problems, I walk down the track to get to a bus stop and I just happen upon this stuff on my journey. Oh and about your comment “Thirdly, there needs to be a gap for EXPANSION.” What about CWR? I do know about railroad tracks and how they work I have even helped build railroad tracks, not rebuild, not fix, but put down new tracks.


    What about CWR?

    Its heated and expanded when its installed, and then its secured to prevent movement. It still expands and contracts.

    Here, I Googled it and even found a link that explains it for you:
    http://www.vre.org/feedback/frequently_asked_questions/faq_heat_orders.htm

    As for working on railroad tracks - congratulations! I've fixed track, reguaged it, etc., and will have put down new very soon..

    I speak from experience - I don't make things up...
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  • wow
  • QUOTE: Originally posted by David_Telesha

    QUOTE: Originally posted by Ham549

    Well it’s not like I go down to the tracks to look for problems, I walk down the track to get to a bus stop and I just happen upon this stuff on my journey. Oh and about your comment “Thirdly, there needs to be a gap for EXPANSION.” What about CWR? I do know about railroad tracks and how they work I have even helped build railroad tracks, not rebuild, not fix, but put down new tracks.


    What about CWR?

    Its heated and expanded when its installed, and then its secured to prevent movement. It still expands and contracts.




    Actually CWR is laid dureing a certain temperature range. If any external heat source is used chances are it's an emergency repair that can't be put off till conditions are right.
  • QUOTE: Originally posted by David_Telesha

    Whoopee.

    First of all you were trespassing to do that and sticking your hand in the rails is pretty darn stupid if I do say so myself.

    Second of all, it always bugs me when railfans who think they know it all concern themselves with these things. If you think its a problem call the railroad. Let them decide.

    The first 3 feet of a rail where there is a joint always take the most impact from passing trains. Thats why with recycled 39' sections, they cut 3 feet off each end and reuse it making a 33' section.

    Thirdly, there needs to be a gap for EXPANSION.

    If your the expert you claim to be, you know that in the summer, if the expansion gap is not big enough there will be a HEAT KINK there, and that will cause the train to derail more than a gap!

    Fourthly, rails aren't rigid, so your little diagram is mis-leading, the rail will compress under the weight... Find a place where the trains roll by slow and watch the flexing.

    So your ideas and concerns are as flawed as your spelling....


    Rule No.1 -- if you are going to chastise someone for their spelling, make sure your own spelling is correct when doing so. Otherwise, you look silly.

    In the above case highlighted in red, the word should be spelled "you're" -- the contraction for the words "you are."

    Thank you.
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  • QUOTE: Originally posted by puttlagger



    Rule No.1 -- if you are going to chastise someone for their spelling, make sure your own spelling is correct when doing so. Otherwise, you look silly.

    In the above case highlighted in red, the word should be spelled "you're" -- the contraction for the words "you are."

    Thank you.

    One word out of over a hundred. Now, I don't know about you, but for me it's easier dealing with one word and a correct statement than dealing with several words and an incorrect statement.

    Could a spell-check be in the works for the new software, Bergie? PLEASE?
  • QUOTE: Originally posted by puttlagger

    QUOTE: Originally posted by David_Telesha

    Whoopee.

    First of all you were trespassing to do that and sticking your hand in the rails is pretty darn stupid if I do say so myself.

    Second of all, it always bugs me when railfans who think they know it all concern themselves with these things. If you think its a problem call the railroad. Let them decide.

    The first 3 feet of a rail where there is a joint always take the most impact from passing trains. Thats why with recycled 39' sections, they cut 3 feet off each end and reuse it making a 33' section.

    Thirdly, there needs to be a gap for EXPANSION.

    If your the expert you claim to be, you know that in the summer, if the expansion gap is not big enough there will be a HEAT KINK there, and that will cause the train to derail more than a gap!

    Fourthly, rails aren't rigid, so your little diagram is mis-leading, the rail will compress under the weight... Find a place where the trains roll by slow and watch the flexing.

    So your ideas and concerns are as flawed as your spelling....


    Rule No.1 -- if you are going to chastise someone for their spelling, make sure your own spelling is correct when doing so. Otherwise, you look silly.

    In the above case highlighted in red, the word should be spelled "you're" -- the contraction for the words "you are."

    Thank you.


    How long did it take you to find that? Slow day at the office?

    At least I make an effort - and perhaps I rewrote that sentence and forgot to change that... How do you know?

    By the way, if you want to get nit-picky, at least I know how to spell cajones...
    http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=63301

    Thanks for the back-up Matt.
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  • QUOTE:
    By the way, if you want to get nit-picky, at least I know how to spell cajones...


    First, I didn't bang a guy several times for his spelling. You did. I was just supporting him, like Matt did you. I thought we were playing by the same rules here.

    Secondly, the word is Spanish slang, and if you do Google search of the word "cojones" or "cujones" or "cajones" you'll find it can be spelled many different ways. Kinda like license and licence, color and colour, et al. But you already knew that.

    And thanks for going back and checking all of my posts for spelling errors. That one word was all you could find? LOL
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  • SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, about CWR.............

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  • Yea, how about that CWR Max.
  • QUOTE: Originally posted by puttlagger

    QUOTE:
    By the way, if you want to get nit-picky, at least I know how to spell cajones...


    First, I didn't bang a guy several times for his spelling. You did. I was just supporting him, like Matt did you. I thought we were playing by the same rules here.

    Secondly, the word is Spanish slang, and if you do Google search of the word "cojones" or "cujones" or "cajones" you'll find it can be spelled many different ways. Kinda like license and licence, color and colour, et al. But you already knew that.

    And thanks for going back and checking all of my posts for spelling errors. That one word was all you could find? LOL


    wow...., I mean, wow. David, you really need to get a life, that was pretty bad man. You need (another) hobby or something becuase, wow.....
  • Nobody asked you Johnny.... Back to 8th grade arguing are we?
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