Genesis suck! Stick with the F40PH

[trainboyH16-44]

QUOTE: Originally posted by BentnoseWillie

unless the rebuild makes the locomotive bigger on the inside than it is on the outside [:o)].

Time to call in Doctor who, make the radiator section exist somewhere outside of space and time, yet have it cool down the F40, however the TARDIS works..

QUOTE: Originally posted by BentnoseWillie

2. Comparing an HMMWV to an H2 or H3 is like comparing a 1980 Impala to a 2006 Impala.

Or an F40PH to an SD70ACe..

[Ham549]

No don't put them in a old shell... Duh I am saying get brand new EVERTHING. Not a re-build at all. The Hummer they use the same basic design and update it for there newer models. And the F40PH Instruction manual does mention HEP but the AC generator is attached to the main engine so I don’t know if that counts. Like I said they should have put a HEP unit in the nose.

[coborn35]

WHY THOUGH!! TOO MUCH MONEY!! Railroads are CHEAP!

[trainboyH16-44]

Not to mention it would probably be a totally differene engine, not even the same length due to the newer components that you suggest. It's just not worth it.

[wctransfer]

Can you please just give up. The Genesis IS a better unit. This little "plan" you have here IS too much money. It WOULDNT even be the same engine like Matt said. Give it up, its not going to happen.

Alec

[Ham549]

No it is not it would cost the same if not cheaper. The Railroad would be getting a new locomotive that is a updated desighn of a F40PH you could call it a F41PH.

[wctransfer]

Or we could call your idea stupid. We have the genesis, and the F59PH's ,and all those stuff. We need no F41PH.

[trainboyH16-44]

IT'S OUTDATED!! Railroads don't want the old F40, they want something new! We're not even on the same topic anymore, you're just whining about wanting them to get a new engine with a similar carbody! Railroads DON'T WANT THAT! THEY WANT CHANGE AND PROGRESS!!

[edbenton]

Ham549 you remind me of an Owner Op of a truck I know. He has truck built in the 70's gets 5 mpg and he still will not replace it. The reason why he says is that I do nat have a payment anymore. He spends more in repairs than he would in a payment. Now lets look at the F40PH in realistic terms. Looking at an avrage mileage of around 2-3 million miles age of now 30 years. Now look at the P42 doe not need to run at full throttle to produce HEP also more fuel efficent larger tanks. In order to make to rebuild the F40 to the current standards need to replace the engine with a 12 cyl 710 series plus also replace the electronics and the fuel tanks all the frames and trucks and TM cost around 2 mil a unit P42 is 1.5 mil

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by trainboyH16-44

QUOTE: Originally posted by Ham549

Oh god..no, I don't want to 'let a n|gga drive a train'...

ok what the hell is this all about haha very funny dont let a *** drive a train well hell railroading is diverse...Ur dumbass should be booted for being racial u ***

[Lord Atmo]

i agree. his comment was uncalled for. i, however, dont want anyone GHETTO driving a train. regardless of their race. ghettos and railroads dont mix

i'm pretty sure at least one F40PH will be preserved. so dont be TOO bummed

and the genesis still looks better

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Lord Atmo

i agree. his comment was uncalled for. i, however, dont want anyone GHETTO driving a train. regardless of their race. ghettos and railroads dont mix

i'm pretty sure at least one F40PH will be preserved. so dont be TOO bummed

and the genesis still looks better

What's Up with the GHETTO thing cause how are you going to judge somebody off the bat???Most railroad engineers dont go to college.It would pretty much be like me sayin i dont want a REDNECK driving my train i mean if they dont derail or cause a wreck or anything then i dont really care

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by SCNSrailfan

QUOTE: Originally posted by trainboyH16-44

QUOTE: Originally posted by Ham549

Oh god..no, I don't want to 'let a n|gga drive a train'...

ok what the hell is this all about haha very funny dont let a *** drive a train well hell railroading is diverse...Ur dumbass should be booted for being racial u ***

I surpised that nobody caught on to this early, the commnet by trainboyH16-44 was completely out of line, he should be kicked off the forums for saying something so stupid, there is no excuse for such a comment.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jdirelan

QUOTE: Originally posted by SCNSrailfan

QUOTE: Originally posted by trainboyH16-44

QUOTE: Originally posted by Ham549

Oh god..no, I don't want to 'let a n|gga drive a train'...

ok what the hell is this all about haha very funny dont let a *** drive a train well hell railroading is diverse...Ur dumbass should be booted for being racial u ***

I surpised that nobody caught on to this early, the commnet by trainboyH16-44 was completely out of line, he should be kicked off the forums for saying something so stupid, there is no excuse for such a comment.

Thank You For Agreeing to that much...

[Lord Atmo]

QUOTE: Originally posted by SCNSrailfan

QUOTE: Originally posted by Lord Atmo

i agree. his comment was uncalled for. i, however, dont want anyone GHETTO driving a train. regardless of their race. ghettos and railroads dont mix

i'm pretty sure at least one F40PH will be preserved. so dont be TOO bummed

and the genesis still looks better

What's Up with the GHETTO thing cause how are you going to judge somebody off the bat???Most railroad engineers dont go to college.It would pretty much be like me sayin i dont want a REDNECK driving my train i mean if they dont derail or cause a wreck or anything then i dont really care

whoa whoa whoa. i said ghetto because of his ytmnd with that. the F40PH in it had all sorts of "bling" on it and goofy paint. then it had hydraulics in the wheels. when i say ghetto, i mean people who would do that to the train. i am NOT trying to be racist. no one race is all you'll see in the ghetto. i've seen all sorts of people of different races in ghettos. i'm a very accepting person and i highly disaprove of the comment made by that other member. equal rights, man, equal rights. the only people i hope never drive trains are people with bad personalities and people who lack the skills. therefore i dont want myself to drive a train...yet [:D]

we should get back on topic. F40PH, had a good run and now gets to be replaced. i dont think every last F40PH on the face of the Earth will be scrapped though. i'm sure at least one will be preserved as railroad history