QUOTE: Originally posted by sammythebull I really have to question if these so called engr schools are worth the effort. I do not know how shortlines hire their help but on class 1's you hire in as a condr then can apply for a engr in a company training class as they open up and senority permits you to get a bid. The big rrs do not hire engrs off the street and I am afraid many folks out there are being fooled to believe that.
QUOTE: Originally posted by RailroaderBMeyer There is no way anyone would make a good engineer if they never were a trainman. In order to be a good engineer you have to know what is going on down on the ground. That guy out there depends on you and puts his life in your hands. Yes, railroads like seeing that engineer card but they take conductors first. I never have seen my railroad post jobs for engineer. Shortlines like it because not only are they hiring a conductor but one who has a card when they need them as an engineer. These engineer schools are good to learn but if you are not rich do it the right way because you will do it the railroads way anyway. Start as a conductor and learn that first because when your an engineer that trainman is trusting you with his life.....I might be new in the railroad but I have learned fast that being out there, your not playing trains and there is no second chance.
QUOTE: Originally posted by jg greenwood I think we have some confusion here. Previously certified engineers, in some cases, ARE hired off the street for engine service. Someone with absolutely no railroad experience IS NOT hired off the street for engine service. The days of fireman being hired, with no trainman experience, and eventually being promoted to engr., are a thing of the past. And yes, it's beneficial to all involved to have that ground experience before being accepted for engine service.
QUOTE: Originally posted by Ham549 Go to Guilford's web site they are always looking for certified locomotive engineers. So some times it is worth it to go to one of theys schools.