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Lord Atmo wrote: i think "SD60" would be easier to say and the others should not be referred to as SD60s. they have their own designations. is it REALLY that hard to add an M or an F to the name?it doesnt matter how similar they are. and yes the GP60 is the exact same inside as an SD60. they have the same engines. all that really differs is the trucks. and the cab is as major of a component as the trucks are. SD60MACs have different cabs, trucks, AND traction current. the SD60MAC differs from the SD60 more than the GP60 differs from the SD60. and yet people will probably STILL call it an SD60. THAT is flawed logic
i think "SD60" would be easier to say and the others should not be referred to as SD60s. they have their own designations. is it REALLY that hard to add an M or an F to the name?
it doesnt matter how similar they are. and yes the GP60 is the exact same inside as an SD60. they have the same engines. all that really differs is the trucks. and the cab is as major of a component as the trucks are. SD60MACs have different cabs, trucks, AND traction current. the SD60MAC differs from the SD60 more than the GP60 differs from the SD60. and yet people will probably STILL call it an SD60. THAT is flawed logic
First I want to say that weight can be a RAILROAD specific option, some locomotives are weighted down for a specific job, like transfer service. Like when DMIR ordered their SD9s and SD18s the first half of the fuel tank was actually a weight hung under the frame. But as for the SD60MACs they were only test beds for the up coming 70MAC series. They were most likely empty hulks they EMD threw innards into. Which if you look at the stats are just upgrades of previous components. There was only 4 built (all still owned by EMD but in a BN test paint) all serve a testing facility I think in the south west. They are just a transition model like the SD40X (actually and SD50). So I think you need to be less critical of what run of engine it is and just enjoy the fact you are able to SEE the train, enjoy the hobby, and I always am model specific when I talk so I will never saying it's a SD60 when it really is an SD60M, but some people don't care to distinguish so be happy that you have more knowledge than they do. LIVE WITH IT I have said the same thing twice and I am done with this conversation.
Anyways, speaking of SD60s, just finished some APR ones...got a good horn on them, and they look great!
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nssr9169 wrote: Lord Atmo wrote: i think "SD60" would be easier to say and the others should not be referred to as SD60s. they have their own designations. is it REALLY that hard to add an M or an F to the name?it doesnt matter how similar they are. and yes the GP60 is the exact same inside as an SD60. they have the same engines. all that really differs is the trucks. and the cab is as major of a component as the trucks are. SD60MACs have different cabs, trucks, AND traction current. the SD60MAC differs from the SD60 more than the GP60 differs from the SD60. and yet people will probably STILL call it an SD60. THAT is flawed logic First I want to say that weight can be a RAILROAD specific option, some locomotives are weighted down for a specific job, like transfer service. Like when DMIR ordered their SD9s and SD18s the first half of the fuel tank was actually a weight hung under the frame. But as for the SD60MACs they were only test beds for the up coming 70MAC series. They were most likely empty hulks they EMD threw innards into. Which if you look at the stats are just upgrades of previous components. There was only 4 built (all still owned by EMD but in a BN test paint) all serve a testing facility I think in the south west. They are just a transition model like the SD40X (actually and SD50). So I think you need to be less critical of what run of engine it is and just enjoy the fact you are able to SEE the train, enjoy the hobby, and I always am model specific when I talk so I will never saying it's a SD60 when it really is an SD60M, but some people don't care to distinguish so be happy that you have more knowledge than they do. LIVE WITH IT I have said the same thing twice and I am done with this conversation.
good. i try to live with it, but being that i LOVE the SD60 and downright despise the SD60M, i'm hence critical about others distinguishing them by model. i hate when the uneducated few lead me into thinking i'm gonna see an awesome SD60 only to find that i'm looking at a 3 eyed hideous mutation.
I also like the standard cab SD60s. The widecabs aren't that bad, (compared to the SD70ACs!!!) but even so, I like the old cabs better.
This type of cab nose on the SD70ACs looks nasty!
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TrainManTy wrote:I also like the standard cab SD60s. The widecabs aren't that bad, (compared to the SD70ACs!!!) but even so, I like the old cabs better.This type of cab nose on the SD70ACs looks nasty!Not my photo, see text at bottom right of photo.
i like that cab.....
unless it has noselights. blech!
Well, weeks of going to back forth to Minooka to see the Mark Twain Zephyr finally paid off. I caught the zephyr being pulled by the EJ&E. I caught it leaving Minooka, then again at Shorewood, Plainfield and Crest Hill.
Here it is heading through Shorewood. The lead engine is EJ&E 657.
This isn't the greatest shot, but here it is heading through Plainfield near the depot.
Here it is on the Western Subdivision at Crest Hill.
It was neat seeing a passenger trainset on the otherwise all freight EJ&E, and a great way to end a great week and a half of seeing this. It is truely something that will probably never happen again. Hopefully the next time I see the zephyr it will be operating around St. Louis, as that is one of the long term goals.
man you guys get to see the coolest things.
my next PHHOMRRC (looking for a shorter name) meet is on 2-2-08 so ive got some work to do.
if it makes you feel better, Oscale, i dont get anything cool up here either, save for when 1995 comes up. (every half year or so. dammit, Proviso....)
thanks for being in the same son of a ***** boat im in atmo
lol
Robby nice photos. I think yuor going to become one of the great EJE photographers.
Well I tryed some winter scenes on a little diorima. The lighting was good for like 10 minuates then it went to really crappy. So heres my shot.
A little over 2 years ago this shot would of been possiable in real life.
EDIT: Here's a better photo. No I didn't crop the one above. i just got around to editing a few more.
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i decided to gather the best of my Altoona shots and show them off. summer is rapidly approaching. and there's not a greater time to wrap up all previous fanning runs i had!
kicking things off with an all american intro is none other than the star spangled snoot, UP 3300!
ah i remember this day. UP 3053 there had a leslie S-3L supertyfon horn. not common on modern UP. but still awesome to hear. i remember we got a good few freidnly honks that day. so i got my supertyfon fill. i also have a video of that train leaving, the horn blowing, and the camera suddenly shaking (yeah i'm high strung )
this was the first picture i ever took. i began my fanning legacy on july 1, 2005. i arrived in Altoona in time to see the local heading out.
glint shots. this was a crazy night. first i caught a late MPRVP, then a coal reroute. it was getting dark when it showed up and i got a nice glint shot of the 3 big GEs pulling it. an AC4460CW was on point. the second i have ever seenm but the only one i have a photo of (i saw UP 7337 WAAAAY back when i got my senior pictures taken on WC 6620)
MP15s in Altoona? no way! this is the only i have ever seen here. i skipped a class to see it too. i'm so dedicated!
it's not hard to figure out why i love this shot so much. 2201 was looking pretty sharp that day. but i have yet to see another SD60 since then. not till i get down to Texas.
Z stripes and miniwings. talk about awesome!
oh lord did i have fun that day
check out this consist. a whopping 8 units. with 72 cars in tow. ironically the other eastbound had 3 locomotives and 164 cars.
and finally, we close things with this shot
SSW 7281 made a stop in Altoona with the MVPPR. i snuck out to catch it. good thing too. as it soon met its demise in Butler only days later.
i have more, but that shall be for another post
Well, yesterday was an amazing day, even with the clouds. I saw an SD45-2B in between two SD40-2s on a Z train, another three pack of SD40-2s on the NTWKCK, SOO 6038 with 6037, an NS C39-8E, and a Ferromex Gevo. Not to bad, heres a link to my report.
http://www.twincitiesrailfan.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1331
Oh, and the 6000 did come down. Last Sunday, with something to make you all jealous.
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