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Please help me with my 2 train sets...id, value, etc.
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 01, 2006 1:46 PM
I have two train sets that were given to me when I was working for the manufacturer of Gravy Train dog food.

Not being a train gal (yet?!!) I'm hoping to get some help identifying the approx. value of these two train sets and how I might go about selling these sets. I opened one factory-sealed box to get the model number. The other box is still unopened and factory-sealed.

I looked up "completed sales" info on ebay but that wasn't helpful because they only listed the last 2 weeks worth of pricing info. Any suggestions? Please be kind as I am new to this model train thing...Wink [;)]

Additional info. below:
Factory sealed box labeled: "GAINES GRAVY TRAIN CUSTOM HO TRAIN SET. MADE IN HONG KONG 86/10"

Instructions say "EMD F9 DIESEL"

Thanks for your help!


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Posted by BRAKIE on Friday, September 01, 2006 1:52 PM

 gravytrain wrote:
I have two train sets that were given to me when I was working for the manufacturer of Gravy Train dog food.

Not being a train gal (yet?!!) I'm hoping to get some help identifying the approx. value of these two train sets and how I might go about selling these sets. I opened one factory-sealed box to get the model number. The other box is still unopened and factory-sealed.

I looked up "completed sales" info on ebay but that wasn't helpful because they only listed the last 2 weeks worth of pricing info. Any suggestions? Please be kind as I am new to this model train thing...Wink [;)]

Additional info. below:
Factory sealed box labeled: "GAINES GRAVY TRAIN CUSTOM HO TRAIN SET. MADE IN HONG KONG 86/10"

Instructions say "EMD F9 DIESEL"

Thanks for your help!


 

Interesting..Can you post a picture?

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Posted by ericboone on Friday, September 01, 2006 2:09 PM
I assume the cars are probably custom printed versions of a relatively inexpensive brand such as Tyco or Bachmann of the time.  (Bachmann purchased Spectrum and has improved their quality immensely in recent years.)  Tyco or other brands of similar quality tend not to retain any value nor be collectable.  The only question is how collectable "Gravy Train" merchandise is.  You would know better than I.  If it is not, then do not figure on getting any more than $15 for the locomotive and around $4 for each car.  The track is probably brass, which few people use anymore because its oxide does not conduct electricity while the now popular nickel silver rail oxide does conduct electricity.  If the track is brass, it will not be worth much if anything at all.  The power supply is probably worth $15.  Sum it up and you have a place to start.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 01, 2006 2:10 PM
Here is a picture of part of the train set:

http://i13.ebayimg.com/06/i/08/21/fe/71_2.JPG

My set includes 8 boxes labeled:
track, power pack, F9 Diesel, all steel caboose, custom car puppy food, custom car beef flavor, custom car beef and cheese flavor, custom car beef, liver, and bacon flavor.
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Posted by CAZEPHYR on Friday, September 01, 2006 2:11 PM

 gravytrain wrote:
I have two train sets that were given to me when I was working for the manufacturer of Gravy Train dog food.

Not being a train gal (yet?!!) I'm hoping to get some help identifying the approx. value of these two train sets and how I might go about selling these sets. I opened one factory-sealed box to get the model number. The other box is still unopened and factory-sealed.

I looked up "completed sales" info on ebay but that wasn't helpful because they only listed the last 2 weeks worth of pricing info. Any suggestions? Please be kind as I am new to this model train thing...Wink [;)]

Additional info. below:
Factory sealed box labeled: "GAINES GRAVY TRAIN CUSTOM HO TRAIN SET. MADE IN HONG KONG 86/10"

Instructions say "EMD F9 DIESEL"

Thanks for your help!

No knowing anything about the set you are asking about, we can only speculate what it is and what it would be worth.   Please post a picture if you can so we can determine if it is a collector set or promotional type set.  The F9 Diesel that is included in the set is a small clue to its worth, but that only indicates it was possiblily made by a certain manufacturer, and is a standard set with Gravy Train printed on it. 

You can get a Dale Earnhart set, an Elvis Presley set and many others with the name printed on what is called a collectors set, but not normally purchased or used by model railroaders.  Companies have these done for promotion much like limited edition plates or other collectables and they are not authentic.  

It probably will not be worth much money unless you can find a Gravey Train collector to buy it and who knows, they might be out there.

I would list them on Ebay if you wanted to sell them and hope for the best.  You can always remove them from the listing if you don't get any offers.

Hope we helped a little.   

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 01, 2006 2:16 PM
ericboone,

Thanks for the info. I forgot to say the brand was Bachmann. The track is silver colored and is attracted to a magnet. That means it is not brass, right??

Because the box is labeled "made in hong kong 86/10" it might have been manufactured in 1986??

Thanks again for your help!
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 01, 2006 2:23 PM
Cazephyr,
Thanks for your ideas. I do have one question--this will show that I am way out of my league here--when you say "the collectors set is not normally purchased or used by model railroaders" what do you mean? What kinds of trains are you guys using?!

Thanks again.
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Posted by CAZEPHYR on Friday, September 01, 2006 2:24 PM

There is one EMD F9 listed on Ebay under Gravy so you have something to watch.  It is a set, and its final price as it is being bid is a clue.

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/Bachmann-Gaines-Gravy-Train-complete-set-HO-F9-Diesel_W0QQitemZ170024384808QQihZ007QQcategoryZ19132QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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Posted by Texas Zepher on Friday, September 01, 2006 2:32 PM

The picture is a little fuzzy when I blow it up enough to see any detail, but my first guess from the color of the power supply that this is an AHM set.  Tyco sets usually had golden colored power packs.  However, as far as I know AHM never made an F9.  Both Tyco and Bachmann did.  Bachmann however did not get into HO scale trains until 1970.  So if they are pre-1970 they cannot be Bachmann.   A few other possibilites are Pemco, COX, Marx,  or Lifelike.

Reguardless, as CALZEPHYR says, any value is going to be to collector value for people who collect that specific brand of toy trains, or that specific brand (Gravy Train or Del Monte) of merchandise.  For this type of person the boxes these come in are often more valuable than the unit itself.  I personally have paid $10 just for an old "Varney" box, whith no train in it, just because it was in perfect condition.

Bachmann Collectors  http://tycotrain.tripod.com/bachmanntrainscollectorsresource/

Tyco Collectors http://tycotrain.tripod.com/tycotrains/

 

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Posted by CAZEPHYR on Friday, September 01, 2006 2:36 PM

 gravytrain wrote:
Cazephyr,
Thanks for your ideas. I do have one question--this will show that I am way out of my league here--when you say "the collectors set is not normally purchased or used by model railroaders" what do you mean? What kinds of trains are you guys using?!

Thanks again.

Many of us who build model railroads try to build and operate them for a certain era.  I prefer the late 1940's and the early fifties since both steam and diesels were used.  It was a time when the passenger train business was still great before the airlines took over and our modeling world can recreate those scenes with great detail and close to exact models.  The models are detailed and weathered much like a prototype would be and we can review history as it was, at least in our perspective.  Many who watched the trains of that era can remember details by pictures and books to create these scenes.

I normally would not purchase a set of anything because it does not fit into the era, but that does not mean everyone is not interested.  Ebay is still the best market for anything like you are talking about and it can be sold.

Good luck on your sale.

 

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Posted by ndbprr on Friday, September 01, 2006 2:40 PM
What people are suggesting is that Gravy Train never was a real railroad and most of us follow real railroad names.  It's value will be as high or higher in the novelty collector market than in the train market.  Bachman is one of the lowest cost, least detailed equipment maunufacturers with virtually no following among serious modelers noted for cheapness and generally poor running.  I don't think it would ever be worth more tha $25.00 if you kept it for 20 years.  I'd give it to a kid if it were mine.
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Posted by Pathfinder on Friday, September 01, 2006 2:48 PM
 gravytrain wrote:

 I opened one factory-sealed box to get the model number. The other box is still unopened and factory-sealed. 


Do not open the other set, for most collectors the most valuable are the un-opened items.

Other than that, I can not offer anything new to what has been posted before.  E-Bay is your best bet, also try to Google some terms around Gains collecters and see what you get.

Good luck and feel free to stay around.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 01, 2006 2:51 PM
TX Zephyr,

Thanks for the info. I scraped that pix from the net. I just opened the train set box and it says bachmann industries, model 6607, hobby transformer. I scraped a picture from the net. In addition to the picture my transformer has a red wire attached to the right hand side as well as a sticker pasted on one end that says warning, use this side for accessories only, may cause damage to the locomotive motor.

http://i8.ebayimg.com/05/i/08/38/30/b8_1.JPG
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 01, 2006 2:56 PM
Hey guys,

Thanks so much for your friendly and knowledgable help. I'll check back later to see if anyone else has additional thoughts.
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Posted by cacole on Friday, September 01, 2006 5:23 PM

I think there's an area on e-Bay entitled "Collections" that would probably be the best area to list these trains in if you decide to go that route, because you probably won't get very good bids if you list them in an area for trains.  As others have pointed out, the sets you have were not for model railroaders but were meant to be more of a collector's item.

 

 

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Posted by BRAKIE on Friday, September 01, 2006 8:04 PM
First that is a oddity..Second a collector would be more interested in it then most modelers..Before you act check the phone book for a hobby shop that carries model trains and contact them to see if they know any  train collectors in your area.Then contact the collector and have them to look at your set.I will also suggest contacting a antique store that deals in antique toys.

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