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Posted by SeeYou190 on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 8:32 PM

I brought back a good sized load from Home Depot today, and went into sticker shock!

I went back and checked old receipts just to be sure.

30" Prehung door... today $148.00, 12/SEP/2020: $129.00

8 foot 2 by 4 stud... today $6.29, 18/SEP/2020: $4.09

3" Seam Tape... today: $8.79, 01/OCT/2020: $6.59

3/8" Trash Plywood... today: $26.89, 03/SEP/2020: $16.49

1 pound 10d Nails... today: $6.87, 09/SEP/2020: $5.27

What is going on with prices? Is this happening elsewhere?

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I am drinking unsweetened iced tea this evening. I know that is not to everyone's taste, but please feel free to join me.

-Kevin

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Posted by gmpullman on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 9:08 PM

SeeYou190
What is going on with prices? Is this happening elsewhere?

Sure is! While cleaning up the train room a few days ago, I decided I needed a few more Sterilite brand drawer sets. I bought the first set of four in March this year at $32. Just ordered another set yesterday at $47.63 (another big-box retailer wanted $67!).

My gut feeling is the general rise in prices can be traced, primarily, to the added tariffs* along with a degree of economic uncertainty in today's market. 

Thanks for the tea! That hit the spot Bow

Regards, Ed

*The Sterilite drawers are made in USA but, as the saying goes, a rising tide lifts all boats.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 9:22 PM

gmpullman
The Sterilite drawers are made in USA but, as the saying goes, a rising tide lifts all boats.

Everything I bought today was USA made as well.

I did not buy any drywall, but it has gone up about $5.00 a sheet since I last bought some five weeks ago. Also USA made. I am going to need a lot more, not looking forward to that purchase.

I do not need any additional, but the USA made Johnson model 1500 pocket door frame went from $99.00 to $129.00 in the past three weeks.

That rising tide better back off!

Laugh

-Kevin

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Posted by York1 on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 9:35 PM

Lumber prices are up all over.

The main reason:

1.  Construction and lumber mills shut down earlier this year due to the virus, reducing the demand for lumber.

2.  Construction came back during the summer much stronger than expected, with fewer mills operating.  The demand caused prices to rise quickly.

There are a lot of sites that explain what happened.  Here is one:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/realestate/lumber-prices-continue-to-soar-due-to-covid-19-building-boom/ar-BB17VEYJ

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Posted by gmpullman on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 10:15 PM

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2.  Construction came back during the summer much stronger than expected, with fewer mills operating.  The demand caused prices to rise quickly.

I needed some treated timber and lumber this summer and Mother Hubbard's cupboard was bare! Yes, supply & demand.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 11:16 PM

Pressure treated two by fours are nearly non-existant down here. It is like trying to find toilet paper was last June.

I am glad I do not need any!

-Kevin

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Posted by BATMAN on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 11:20 PM

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Posted by York1 on Thursday, October 8, 2020 8:50 AM

My comment about lumber prices was meant to be about lumber that is harvested, milled, and sold in the U.S.  I know there are other reasons for the price increases when talking about lumber crossing the border with other countries.  Sorry.

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Posted by York1 on Thursday, October 8, 2020 9:00 AM

Good morning, everyone.  Our Indian Summer is continuing to at least next week, when it looks like temperatures will drop a little.

This weather is great for physical activity.  The trail continues to be a great place to put on walking-running miles each day, without bundling up with coats and gloves.

After our family vacations, it's always an adjustment back to our normal.  It was nice living with all the hubbub of kids, grandkids, and dogs, all existing in the same house.  Lots of fun -- but also tiring.  Plans are in the works for some major trips for us and our daughters' families; it's a good thing deposits are refundable.

Hope everyone has a good day.

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Posted by Doughless on Thursday, October 8, 2020 9:00 AM

SeeYou190

I brought back a good sized load from Home Depot today, and went into sticker shock!

I went back and checked old receipts just to be sure.

30" Prehung door... today $148.00, 12/SEP/2020: $129.00

8 foot 2 by 4 stud... today $6.29, 18/SEP/2020: $4.09

3" Seam Tape... today: $8.79, 01/OCT/2020: $6.59

3/8" Trash Plywood... today: $26.89, 03/SEP/2020: $16.49

1 pound 10d Nails... today: $6.87, 09/SEP/2020: $5.27

What is going on with prices? Is this happening elsewhere?

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I am drinking unsweetened iced tea this evening. I know that is not to everyone's taste, but please feel free to join me.

-Kevin

 

Hurricane prep related?  Low supply there because supply is high elsewhere.

Haven't chaecked the prices that closely here in GA.

As others have said, it's probably a temporary imbalance related to some macro thing that will adjust.

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Thursday, October 8, 2020 9:11 AM

Good morning ... 

John York 1 ..... I just read the article you linked and I read your post. I'm wondering about that. If lumber mills are closed, that affects supply not demand. 

I do need some 2x4's for a little project. So, I guess I'm stuck paying a high price.

Regarding model trains, I'm nearly done making two more stock cars. Also, have new decoders installed in my Intermountain GN F7's. 

Everybody: ...... Have a good day. 

 

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Posted by ROBERT PETRICK on Thursday, October 8, 2020 9:43 AM

SeeYou190

I am drinking unsweetened iced tea this evening. I know that is not to everyone's taste, but please feel free to join me.

-Kevin

Indifferent  Are you kidding me!?

I don't know if sweet tea is the Number 1 thing I miss most about the South, but it is certainly in the Top 5. (I think fried chicken might be No 1.)

Janie, please bring me a tall glass of sweet ice tea, and please don't tell me that there's sugar on the table. And maybe you should bring my friend Kevin one as well. I think he might need an intervention of some sort.

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Posted by York1 on Thursday, October 8, 2020 10:33 AM

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John York 1 ..... I just read the article you linked and I read your post. I'm wondering about that. If lumber mills are closed, that affects supply not demand. 

I think what they're saying is that the mills and construction both slowed.  But, the low interest rates caused construction demand to ramp up more than expected, and the mills were not able to up production supply that quickly.

Before I get into trouble with this, I'm talking about U.S. lumber, which includes Southern Yellow Pine for a lot of our pressure-treated uses.

There are other reasons why imported lumber prices have risen.

 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Thursday, October 8, 2020 11:06 AM

ROBERT PETRICK
Janie, please bring me a tall glass of sweet ice tea, and please don't tell me that there's sugar on the table. And maybe you should bring my friend Kevin one as well. I think he might need an intervention of some sort.

Several years ago I went through a taste-transformation of unknown cause.

I started to dislike sweets, and bitter foods became desireable.

I stopped drinking sweet tea and sodas. I switched to black coffee. Beer became delicious. I also began eating brussel sprouts and grapefruit.

I stopped eating ice cream, cookies, and candy.

This was not an intentional change, just how things went.

Now... Sweet Tea... Yuck. Ick!

I used to drink the stuff by the gallon.

-Kevin

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Posted by York1 on Thursday, October 8, 2020 11:20 AM

ROBERT PETRICK
I don't know if sweet tea is the Number 1 thing I miss most about the South, but it is certainly in the Top 5. (I think fried chicken might be No 1.)

SeeYou190
Now... Sweet Tea... Yuck.  I used to drink the stuff by the gallon.

 

My wife, coming from New Orleans, is a sweet-tea-alholic.  When we moved north, she could not find true sweet tea, and she usually mixed about 400 sugar packets into a glass of tea.

Even though I lived in the south, I never drank tea or coffee with sugar.  But then, I also drank coffee with chicory without the sugar or milk.  Today, I can't stomach the stuff.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Thursday, October 8, 2020 11:29 AM

ROBERT PETRICK
I don't know if sweet tea is the Number 1 thing I miss most about the South, but it is certainly in the Top 5. (I think fried chicken might be No 1.)

One of my favorite things to do when I am traveling Up North, is to eat in a "Southern Style Cooking" restaurant to see what they have.

It is usually OK, but nothing really matches what you can find in Alabama, Georgia, or the Carolinas.

We have lost most of our "real" down-home southern restaurants in this part of Florida.

There was a place in LaBelle, Florida called Flora & Ella's that had been there 60+ years. It has been gone for more than a decade now. That was some good eating!

We still have Michelbob's in Naples, but that is all I know of within reasonable driving distance.

-Kevin

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Posted by ROBERT PETRICK on Thursday, October 8, 2020 11:33 AM

I've been drinking black coffee since I was about 14. I distinctly remember the first time I did was to impress Christine (the cute blonde with freckles on her nose who lived down the street). Really.

I don't know if this will get moderated, but one of my nephews calls Brussels sprouts 'monkey balls'.

I prefer grapefruit juice to orange.

Beer? Meh . . . I can take it or leave it.

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Posted by ROBERT PETRICK on Thursday, October 8, 2020 11:39 AM

SeeYou190

 

 
ROBERT PETRICK
I don't know if sweet tea is the Number 1 thing I miss most about the South, but it is certainly in the Top 5. (I think fried chicken might be No 1.)

 

One of my favorite things to do when I am traveling Up North, is to eat in a "Southern Style Cooking" restaurant to see what they have.

It is usually OK, but nothing really matches what you can find in Alabama, Georgia, or the Carolinas.

We have lost most of our "real" down-home southern restaurants in this part of Florida.

There was a place in LaBelle, Florida called Flora & Ella's that had been there 60+ years. It has been gone for more than a decade now. That was some good eating!

We still have Michelbob's in Naples, but that is all I know of within reasonable driving distance.

-Kevin

There is only one place in Wyoming to get chicken that is minimally passable: Dash Inn in Buffalo. There is a pretty significant mountain range between here and there, and the pass is closed in winter, but it is worth driving the long way around.

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Posted by Water Level Route on Thursday, October 8, 2020 11:49 AM

Whenever I travel down south I swear sweet tea is the only thing I drink.  I love it.  One of my grandmas was from Oklahoma and was how I was introduced to sweet tea.  God that sounds good right now.

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Posted by Track fiddler on Thursday, October 8, 2020 12:10 PM

Good morning

Two posts in a row by Robert Petrick?

Unheard of, ....Your a Post Hog Robert!   Welcome to the clubYesWink

 

 

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Posted by Track fiddler on Thursday, October 8, 2020 12:11 PM

Good afternoon

Two posts in a row by Robert Petrick?

Unheard of!, ....Your a Post Hog Robert!   Welcome to the clubYesWink

 

 

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Posted by ROBERT PETRICK on Thursday, October 8, 2020 1:20 PM

Track fiddler

Good morning

Two posts in a row by Robert Petrick?

Unheard of, ....Your a Post Hog Robert!   Welcome to the clubYesWink

TF

Ooh . . . do we get a big hat and learn the secret handshake?  Cowboy

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Thursday, October 8, 2020 1:24 PM

ROBERT PETRICK
I've been drinking black coffee since I was about 14. I distinctly remember the first time I did was to impress Christine (the cute blonde with freckles on her nose who lived down the street). Really.

When I was fourteen there was a really cute girl on the next street over named Pamela.

I overheard her on the school bus one day telling her friend that she was impressed by this guy named Leo who could walk on his hands.

I spent weeks trying to learn how to walk on my hands too. Never did. Never talked to her.

-Kevin

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Posted by Track fiddler on Thursday, October 8, 2020 2:16 PM

ROBERT PETRICK

 

 Ooh . . . do we get a big hat and learn the secret handshake?  Cowboy

Robert

 

Of course you always get a big warm handshake RobertYes  but nothing too secret about it.

And you do get the big hat if you live down south to keep the sun off you.  But if you live up here in the Northland you get a Big webbed steel bag of hybrid slow-burning hot coals to keep you warm up here real soon eh?

 

P.S.   I could only sense that cute blond with the freckles on her nose was really something back in your daySmile

 

MemoriesYes

 

 

 

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Posted by moelarrycurly4 on Thursday, October 8, 2020 5:33 PM

Prices gone up in contruction materials = Hurricanes. 

 

 

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Posted by Track fiddler on Thursday, October 8, 2020 5:42 PM

Still get a 4x8 sheet of half inch OSB for 8 bucks up here

But my Finlander friends say it's not a bit Vinder up here and I guess I would have to say the same

 

I remember some of my up by the border Finlander friends would say "It's a little Vinder today eh"!  When it was Windy that dayLaughLaughLaugh

 

You should see the look on some of my current friends faces when I say it's a little Vinder todayLaughLaughLaugh

 

 

 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Thursday, October 8, 2020 6:04 PM

Track fiddler
Still get a 4x8 sheet of half inch OSB for 8 bucks up here

OSB has always been expensive down here. I am puzzled why when I go to Home Depot in Georgia OSB is always a few bucks cheaper, and half the price at Menard's in Indiana.

Maybe the cost of shipping it down here effects the price.

Maybe.

-Kevin

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Posted by cudaken on Thursday, October 8, 2020 6:22 PM

 Eveing Diners

 Flo, give the gang and I a Beer please and Dirk and Robbie a dog treat.

 Down in the dump today

 1. Had to hire a new Heat and Air company to get our furances going. I have used them at work and they are honest but not cheap like our old guy.

 2. Dirk is limping again! I see a nother never ending Vet visit bill coming my way.

 3. Need around $250.00 in car repairs.

 I am guessing in the next week I will have spent $600.00 or more on furances (if I am lucky) Dirk and car repair.

 Later, Ken and Dirk says my paw hurts Daddy.

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Posted by Track fiddler on Thursday, October 8, 2020 6:30 PM

Kevin

Supply and demand

Where they can't keep up with shipping,  the price goes higher trying to keep up with shipping it there because of multiple shipments

If someone could count it would probably help

 

And I can't believe those lumberyards down there don't keep a stockpile of the stuff on hand because of hurricanes  And they know the next one is just around the corner.  OSB doesn't go bad kept in a dry environment

 

 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Thursday, October 8, 2020 9:32 PM

The Miami Herald reported today that the longest python ever captured in Florida was brought in yesterday, 19 feet 11 inches!

If I ever saw one of these I might just keel over dead.

-Kevin

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