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Posted by Track fiddler on Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:53 PM

The story is Eddie Van Halen had the guitar Mastered by the age of 13 in high school and probably long before that

He played Eruption from the start and had many versions of it from which he would play.  He fiddled around with his guitars and said the guitar was like a toy to him

He rose to fame quickly and was so young people would call the police on him for flipping hundred dollar bills out at hotels like it was confetti 

He was one of the youngest most successful Rock Stars from his start

 

Long Live Eddie Van Halen!

 

Somebody here please put a live version of one of his better live performances of Eruption  

 

Long Live EddieYes

 

 

 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 1:36 AM

Track fiddler
Somebody here please put a live version of one of his better live performances of Eruption  

This is my favorite, but it is very long.

-Kevin

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Posted by gmpullman on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 4:47 AM

Good morning from the beautiful shores of Petoskey, Michigan!

Let's set the wayback machine to 1908, shall we?

 GRnI_Petoskey_1908 by Edmund, on Flickr

Click on the photo, I've kept the relative size of this 8 x 10 glass negative fairly large. Old No. 3 is getting her bell polished. Petoskey is famous for their fossilized coral known as Petoskey Stone formed in the Devonian* period.

The Grand Rapids and Indiana Railroad generally ran north-south from Cincinnati to the Straits of Mackinac way up in the U.P. The Pennsylvania railroad bought the cash-strapped railroad ten years after the above photo was taken.

Until 1961 the PRR operated the Northern Arrow on this route, a popular train for vacationers. This is pretty close to the view as it is today, looking north, toward the depot:

 Petoskey_view-north by Edmund, on Flickr

Ten-years or so back, there were a few trips here aboard private cars. Somewhere I have a few photos of one of those adventures.

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Ed I will be calling you in the next few days if that is OK. You back night shift or day shift?

This week I'm hitting the rack at 5 AM and sleeping to noon, Ken ZzzSmile

I hope everyone is doing fine.

Take your pick! The ones with holes are half the calories Whistling

 donuts by Edmund, on Flickr

Cheers, Ed

* That's before there were trains!

 

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Posted by Track fiddler on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 7:58 AM

Mornin

Another beautiful day up in Mn.  76° yesterday and enjoyed.  I was out on the porch with a coffee in a t-shirt at 7:00.  Comfortable and not a cloud in the sky.  It looks like it's going to be another nice one.  Indian Summer perhapsSmile

 

Thanks for the Donuts Ed.  Interesting schedule you have this week.  I think you're on Kevin's scheduleLaughPirate  I'm back to my normal schedule of hitting the rack at 11 p.m. again.

Thanks for the video KevinWink  That's one of my favorites too.  Erv streamed that one to the big screen out in the garage yesterday.  We watched another long one when Eddie was older and gray.  He always looked like he was having fun.  The bathroom looks great KevYes  Nice Job!

 

Judy's day off today and tomorrow.  I need to re-up on some Kingsford as some lakeside grilling is in order here!  Some beautiful weather to do it inYes

 

Make it a great day guysSmile, Wink & Grin

 

 

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Posted by York1 on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 8:24 AM

Good morning, everyone.  We also are having an Indian Summer here -- cool mornings, but warming into the 80s in the afternoon.

Corn harvest is just starting while harvesting beans has been going on for several weeks.  It's a busy time of year here.  I am in the middle of thousands of square miles of corn and bean fields. 

In several weeks, corn will be piled on the ground in many small towns, waiting for empty train cars.

The layout has been sitting quietly for several weeks.  I hope to get back to work on it in several weeks.  There is a great looking white church about five miles from our house.  I think I will try to scratchbuild that building.  I'm going to get some pictures of it today.

Ed, thanks for the donuts.  There is always room for glazed donuts.  I don't ever let calories bother me while eating donuts.

Have a good Wednesday, everyone.

 

 

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 8:52 AM

Good morning ... 

Ed ....... Thanks for the donuts, and thanks for posting photos and informaton about Petoskey, MI. .... You brought back memories. 

Maybe 25 years ago, we rode on a special excursion train operated by a Michigan  Railroad Club. I think it had "Blue Water" as part of it name. The train ride was round trip between Ann Arbor and Petoskey on the Tuscola & Saginaw Bay Railway. TSBY is now part of Great Lakes Central Railroad. .... At the time, we lived near Ann  Arbor. 

I'll look for old photos of the trip to share if I find them. The train had at least 10 passenger cars and a pair of TSBY GP35's. In Petoskey, we stayed at a restored old hotel. The excursion package included two nights in the hotel, and a day trip to Mackinaw Island via bus and boat. Also, there was time for shopping in Petoskey. 

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Everybody: Have a good Wednesday. 

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Posted by Doughless on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 8:59 AM

York1
We also are having an Indian Summer here -- cool mornings, but warming into the 80s in the afternoon. Corn harvest is just starting while harvesting beans has been going on for several weeks.  It's a busy time of year here.  I am in the middle of thousands of square miles of corn and bean fields.  In several weeks, corn will be piled on the ground in many small towns, waiting for empty train cars

Brings back memories John.  Both of my youth in Nebraska and most of my adulthood in Indiana. 

Now stuck in the Atlanta suburbs, but these cool fall mornings have already been bringing back wonderful memories.  Thanks for adding more color.

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Posted by Track fiddler on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 9:16 AM

It was a shame what I heard this morning.

I won't state it as fact but I heard the reason Eddie died was from throat cancer from metal poisoning.

It was said while he was battling it he stated it was because he always parked his steel guitar pick in his mouth his whole life.

You know how rumors can be.  I don't know if this information is true but it does make sense.

 

What a shame

 

 

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 9:36 AM

 

gmpullman
Take your pick! The ones with holes are half the calories Whistling donuts by Edmund, on Flickr

LION wants Glazed Donuts. Him wioll take them youseguys can have the udders!

The Route of the Broadway Lion The Largest Subway Layout in North Dakota.

Here there be cats.                                LIONS with CAMERAS

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 9:37 AM

Track fiddler
I won't state it as fact but I heard the reason Eddie died was from throat cancer from metal poisoning. It was said while he was battling it he stated it was because he always parked his steel guitar pick in his mouth his whole life.

Eddie was a VERY heavy smoker, and chain smoked nearly his entire life. There is no way we could know with certainty what caused his cancer, but I know where I would place my bet.

-Kevin

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Posted by wjstix on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 9:53 AM

Track fiddler
I won't state it as fact but I heard the reason Eddie died was from throat cancer from metal poisoning. It was said while he was battling it he stated it was because he always parked his steel guitar pick in his mouth his whole life. You know how rumors can be. I don't know if this information is true but it does make sense.

As a steel guitar player, it doesn't make sense. The finger picks that steel guitar players use are made from nickel-silver. (The thumbpicks are plastic, like regular guitar picks.) If nickel-silver or plastic was a health hazard, I'd think a lot of model railroaders would be getting sick from handling nickel-silver track with plastic ties over the years.

https://www.guitarcenter.com/National-Picks/Nickel-Silver-Finger-Picks-4-Pack-1274228075375.gc

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Posted by Track fiddler on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 9:59 AM

BroadwayLion

 

 

 
gmpullman
Take your pick! The ones with holes are half the calories Whistling donuts by Edmund, on Flickr

 

LION wants Glazed Donuts. Him wioll take them youseguys can have the udders!

 

 

LaughLaughLaugh

What? ...The Lion wants glazzed donuts this morning?

No you don't!!!   You best be going to take your own temperatureLaugh

 

You want the Udder FarmLaughPirate

Not this farm and not that farm.  The Udder FarmDinner

 

 

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Posted by BigDaddy on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 10:27 AM

A lot of us wore braces for years, I doubt it was the metal guitar pic.  Human papilloma virus can cause oral cancers, as well as booze and cigarettes.  I'll bet he had his share of all three.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 10:31 AM

Good morning everyone.

Flo, it is just one egg on a slice of whole wheat toast for me this morning. I think I will skip the coffee for orange juice as well.

Track fiddler
The bathroom looks great Kev  Nice Job!

Thank you. My wife loves it, and that makes my life easier!

I still need to go buy the interior doors. It rained again yesterday. I have been working on putting carboard down over all the flooring in the house. The contractor is supposed to be here next week to install the new front window and sliding lanai doors.

Having a new bathroom is not all that rewarding when it still has a tarp for a door!

-Kevin

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Posted by Track fiddler on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 10:40 AM

Got it Guys!

I need no more convincing here.  I just shared the rumor going around MPLS. 

I didn't come up with it.  It probably came from smokers that might make them feel a little betterSmile, Wink & Grin

 

 

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Posted by York1 on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 11:34 AM

Doughless
Now stuck in the Atlanta suburbs, but these cool fall mornings have already been bringing back wonderful memories. 

I have in-laws and a brother in Atlanta.  My father-in-law, who was raised in North Dakota, often said that with all the trees in Georgia, it was almost impossible to see a sunset like he remembered from his time on the plains.  He enjoyed coming to the farms in Nebraska reminding him of his boyhood.  I don't think he missed the winters, though.

 

SeeYou190
The contractor is supposed to be here next week to install the new front window and sliding lanai doors.

Kevin, with the bathroom done and the doors and windows almost there, is getting the layout started almost a reality?

 

Heartland Division CB&Q
I'll look for old photos of the trip to share if I find them. The train had at least 10 passenger cars and a pair of TSBY GP35's. In Petoskey, we stayed at a restored old hotel. The excursion package included two nights in the hotel, and a day trip to Mackinaw Island via bus and boat. Also, there was time for shopping in Petoskey. 

This sounds neat.  As I stated earlier, my wife wants to get me to Mackinac Island in the next few years.  She was there before we were married.

 

My wife heard the same report about the guitar picks.  She added that smoking, drinking, and whatever else is more likely the culprit.

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Posted by Track fiddler on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 1:12 PM

BigDaddy

Human papilloma virus can cause oral cancers, as well as booze and cigarettes.  I'll bet he had his share of all three.

 

My Grandmother who basically raised me had a saying that was instilled in me when I was a little boy.  "If you don't have anything nice to say about someone, don't say it at all".

I've carried that lesson through my life and would especially apply it the day or the day after somebody dies.

But then that's just me and how I was raised.  Good fundamentals are better applied then negative things said

 

 

 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 1:47 PM

York1
Kevin, with the bathroom done and the doors and windows almost there, is getting the layout started almost a reality?

YES!

I am still seriously hopeful for a start on the layout of January 2021. I don't know what the opposite of a Golden Spike is called, but I am hopefully only 12-14 weeks away from that ceremony.

I have been putting cardboard all over the floors to protect them during the removal of popcorn ceiling, paint, and the windoor/door installation.

This is taking forever.

I have now run out of seam tape. I went through five rolls today!

Off to buy more...

-Kevin

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Posted by Doughless on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 2:25 PM

York1
I have in-laws and a brother in Atlanta.  My father-in-law, who was raised in North Dakota, often said that with all the trees in Georgia, it was almost impossible to see a sunset like he remembered from his time on the plains.  He enjoyed coming to the farms in Nebraska reminding him of his boyhood.  I don't think he missed the winters, though.

Sure, no place is perfect.  Its a series of trade offs. 

I don't know a lot about southern Georgia, but around here it seems like any open place that exists, exists because its been cleared by man at some point in the past few centuries.

The trees are pretty and impressive, but it can sometimes gives me a sense of claustrophobia when I can't see farther than 100 feet around me .

Much different than the plains of Nebraska.

 

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Posted by Doughless on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 2:29 PM

FWIW relative to Van Halen's tongue cancer, Eddie Van Halen said that the picks he used and put in his mouth were made of brass and copper.

Didn't know that he was also a metalurgist.  But he thought there was something to it.

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Posted by Track fiddler on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 3:56 PM

You're A Post-Hog Douglas and now you're marked as a member!

What you choose to do with this new information is entirely up to you!

 

 

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Posted by moelarrycurly4 on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 3:56 PM

SeeYou190

 

 
 

YES!

I am still seriously hopeful for a start on the layout of January 2021. I don't know what the opposite of a Golden Spike is called, but I am hopefully only 12-14 weeks away from that ceremony.

 

 

Groundbreaking...

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 3:59 PM

Doughless
I don't know a lot about southern Georgia

GNATS! That is all there is to know.

Doughless
The trees are pretty and impressive, but it can sometimes gives me a sense of claustrophobia when I can't see farther than 100 feet around me .

When I went out West in 2019, that was the first time I was ever away from trees, and I could actually see TRAINS! In Florida and Georgia all you can see is a locomotive, and then the train cars 3 or 4 at a time because of all the trees.

Out West I could see a 100 car freight train from end to end all at once. It was  amazing.

moelarrycurly4
Groundbreaking...

I was hoping for a more railroady term like "Shiney Spike" or "Brown Crosstie", or something like that.

Maybe Graoundbreaking will be what it is.

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Posted by moelarrycurly4 on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 4:00 PM

Doughless

FWIW relative to Van Halen's tongue cancer, Eddie Van Halen said that the picks he used and put in his mouth were made of brass and copper.

Didn't know that he was also a metalurgist.  But he thought there was something to it.

 

 

He also thought his recording studio caused it... 

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Posted by Track fiddler on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 4:13 PM

moelarrycurly4

 

 
SeeYou190

 

 
 

YES!

I am still seriously hopeful for a start on the layout of January 2021. I don't know what the opposite of a Golden Spike is called, but I am hopefully only 12-14 weeks away from that ceremony.

 

 

 

 

Groundbreaking...

 

 

Earth-shattering is more of the word!

 

Am I getting this straight!

Kevin is almost done with all his Home Remodeling and he's going to start his HO layout soon? Stick out tongue

Well this is ground breaking news than,  isn't it?

 

I'm buying everyone a round of whatever you want to drink and a Juicy Lucy with extra cheese of your choice in betweenStick out tongue  and two of them for KevinYes   And two cocktails tooSmile, Wink & Grin

 

 

 

 

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Posted by tin can on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 5:12 PM

Hi Ken!  

I browse the Diner just about every day.  Don't have a lot to add on most days.  Glad you are enjoying that GP7, it was my pleasure.

A HUGE chocolate cake with coconut pecan icing and 62 candles was just delivered to my table; with a couple of gallons of Blue Bell vanilla bean ice cream; cake and ice cream for everyone.  

I am debating what to order for my own birthday present; last year it was a Santa Fe bluebonnet F7A with DCC and sound.  This year it might be a new DCC throttle; haven't decided if it is going to be the new TCS wifi that has the glowing review in this months MR; or the newest duplex throttle from Digitrax.  Either way, I win!

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Posted by York1 on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 5:39 PM

Happy Birthday, tin can!

At 62, you're still a young man.

Enjoy the day and whatever you decide to get yourself.

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Posted by Track fiddler on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 6:34 PM

It's that time of year.

The Holloween thread should be coming soon.

 

 

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Posted by BATMAN on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 8:03 PM

Good late afternoon from the West Coast where it was a warm sunny day.

Had some good friends over today and sat apart in the sunshine outback, it was a good visit and with our socializing diminished it was great to get together. They were both bigshots in the movie industry and always have great stories to tell.

Garry, thanks for the info on the fall of the Milwaukee, that was interesting. Even though I was a blue-collar guy I always like to read a lot about business and finance and what makes the world go round.

Ed, we had to have a new cable pulled through to the house as the old one was corroded. We also have fibre optics pulled to the house but have not hooked up yet as the old cable company keeps lowering the price so much, and it works as good as we need it so that is where we are on that.

I had the power to the house increased from 100 amp to 200 amp. The power company set their truck up over in the neighbours' yard to pull that baby through the pipe. Big trucks a few guys and it didn't cost me a dime. Still can't figure that one out.

I liked the then and now pic. I like the picket fence and think that would be a nice feature on a MRR that we don't see too often.

Henry, you mentioned braces. I remember taking a hockey stick to the front chiclets when I was about 12. It was before dental plans and it was the last thing my parents needed on their plate as an expense, I feel bad about it to this day. I needed repairs and braces. 

Kevin, the bathroom looks good. I got the shower doors installed, those suckers were heavy. The start of your RR could also be the sod turning.

Happy Birthday to Tin Can, 62 EH? Well,I am an old 63 so enjoy your youth.Smile, Wink & Grin 

Had popcorn with lots of butter last night and then some cheesecake so I am no energy and on the pain train today. Can't be behaved all the time, but as a hangover will do, it smartens you up for a while. I did do a full workout but it took a long time to get through it.

All the best to all.

Might have to turn on the heat tomorrow.GrumpyLaugh

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Posted by hon30critter on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 8:23 PM

Lastspikemike
Did you check the plumbing code for your area before deciding to use this unorthodox repair? By chance?

Nope! What do you think they will do if they find out?!?LaughLaughLaugh

Lastspikemike
unorthodox repair

So using silicone is unorthodox eh?!? There must be a lot of unorthodox people out there!

Lastspikemike
You've been lucky so far to have no leaks (that you know about.) 

I wouldn't call it luck. I cleaned the floor tiles and the bottom of the toilet thoroughly, installed a new wax gasket which I had warmed up thoroughly to make it malleable so it wouldn't crack, and we didn't use the toilet for several days to allow the silicone to set.

As for any water that might be leaking down beside the flange and under the floor, that amount would be negligable, if any, because there were no gaps between the concrete and the flange, there were no cracks in the concrete before the tiles were laid and there are no cracks in the grout to suggest that the floor has moved since then.

The toilet doesn't move. There has been no leakage, nor has there been any discolouration of the tiles or the grout, nor are there any lingering odours. The repair was made 18 years ago!

I suppose that you are still going to tell me that I am wrong.

Dave

 

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