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Posted by Tinplate Toddler on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 8:10 AM

howmus
but you have to add you will get various evil gestures as they fly by........

Same at this end of the Big Pond. I guess the gestures you´d see are also quite the same.

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Posted by GMTRacing on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 8:16 AM

Good Morning All,

   A balmy 10F here this morning but the roads are clear after Sundays 4" or so s**w. Just a regular to go please.

   Malones is a great place to eat and there are 3-4 other resturants right there if you're talking about the same hotel area in Atlanta. You have to admit though that the area right where the hotels are is mighty barren looking. On the other hand that is why they have desk clerks so you can ask - right? 

   Making steering racks this week. When you are dealing with cars that are 50-60 years old there is not a lot of off the shelf stuff to be had. I finally sourced a half dozen right hand drive Triumph steering racks in England and have been busy modifying them to suit. Which I should get back to....   Ciao, J.R.

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Posted by Water Level Route on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 8:38 AM

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I'm curious as to anyone's opinion about the simple crossword puzzle I posted back on December 26th. I thought it might add a little fun for patrons of the diner and if there was any interest I could probably come up with a new one each month.

Ed, I quite liked it, doing most of it in my head when I initially saw your posting.  I think it's a neat idea.  I also think you may not have received much feedback (me included Embarrassed) due to the timing.  I know I didn't really get much forum time with holiday obligations in the way.  Then again, my wife routinely comments on me being an "old soul", so maybe I'm unique in my appreciation for it.

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Posted by GMTRacing on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 8:50 AM

Besides the shop, I've been  beavering away on the liftout section for the isle plus the freight house for the yard on the layout. I think I finally got the lift out to work properly and realign easily each time but it's only been out and back a few times so the juries still out. The freight house is the Walthers kit but I cut the roof off the office area and am fitting a peaked roof instead so it is more New Englandy (few flat roofs out this way). I'm trying to get as much done as possible before we go back out on the road mid February.

   And Volkswagons... I had a 55 Beetle with a 40 horse motor and later a 68 that my son turned into parts trying to restore it. Other than my daughters Jetta that I would just as soon forget that's been it. I still see VW stuff daily though since the gearbox was the basis for the Hewland Mark series racing gearbox but that is another story.    

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Posted by York1 on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 9:04 AM

Good morning.  Not to repeat myself, but it's cold, with freezing rain predicted for this evening, then snow.  We still have a sheet of ice and snow on everything from a week ago.  I guess it's called winter.

Ed, I must have missed your crossword.  I'm a fanatic.  I like the books of the Los Angeles Times Sunday Crosswords.  I love that certain one because of all the word plays, puns, and wit.

Talking of police pulling cars over, I think I may have told this story before.  My school in New Oleans was on Canal Street, the main street running from downtown to the lake.  It was six lanes wide, but not a freeway.  For a two block stretch in front of the school, it was a school zone with speeds reduced to 15 mph from 3:00 to 3:30 p.m.

The motorcycle or horse mounted police would gather there certain days and set up their radar.  They would spot cars coming, and they would walk out into the street and stand facing the cars coming, pointing the drivers to pull over.

They would pull over 10 - 12 cars at once, write all the tickets, let them go, then pull over the next group. The school kids would love to stand and talk to the police.

Once, a guy in a sports car didn't slow down or stop until he was right up to the policeman's legs.  He jumped out of the car and began to claim he wasn't speeding.  The policeman calmly looked over at the school kids and asked them how fast the guy was going.  The kids, who had been watching the radar gun, all yelled, "46!" (or whatever it was - I forget the exact number).  The guy just shook his head and quit arguing.

Hope everyone has a great day.

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 11:51 AM

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It is a commonly known fact that Canadians never get lost in the woods, only in cities!Smile, Wink & GrinLaugh Thank you for saving them!

 

A shrink once asked me what I would do if I was lost in the woods.

 

I replied that I would walk down hill.

 

He kinda looked at me like I had two heads, and so I explained the facts of life to him:

 

At the bottom of the hill there is a stream

You would follow that until it flowed into a river.

If you cannot figure out where you are by the time you get to New Orleans, being lost was not the worst of your problems.

 

Of course in Canada, or even in Fargo, you might wind up at the Artic Ocan and still not have found a restaurant.

 

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Posted by howmus on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 12:34 PM

Hey Lion...

Actually the opposite is what you should do.  Always go uphill!  I took Wilderness Survival from a Gent (can't recal the name off the top of my head) who was considered to be the world's expert on the sibject.  Yul Gibbons once said, If I was ever lost, the one person in the world I want to be lost with would be (insert the guys name)".

Reasons for going uphill?  1. Safer to fall up than down!  2. Since the beggining of time people have been trying to get to the top!  So if you go uphill you will usually find a well beaten path or road that will take you safely back down.  Going downhill is not recomended as you can get hurt much easier and near the bottom you are more likely to find swamps, bogs, and other impassable areas.  That gent who taugh us also gave us about 30 ways to start fires safetly (one inculded using pine tree sap), how to stay warm (see fire thing), ans how to signal.  Remember the word LOST stands for Lean On Survival Training....

Be Blessed my friend!

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 1:38 PM

I agree with going up, but for a different reason.  If you have a cell phone, it will be useless in a back country valley, but you might pick up a signal on top of a mountain, or the system might pick up your phone and guide rescuers to you.

I used to downhill ski a lot.  At the top, it was often windy and cold, but I could make a call.  Some valleys were nice because I was out of the wind and had no cell service.

I always put the ski patrol number on my phone for whatever area I went to, just in case.  I think I had to call in the sled 3 times for other injured skiers.

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Posted by Tinplate Toddler on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 1:49 PM

I live in a rather flat part of the country, so going up is no option. What do I do if I get lost? Wait for the next bus.

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Posted by RedImperator on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 2:24 PM

I would think going downhill to find a stream only works if you're in an environment where you can reasonably expect to find surface water. Tough luck if you get lost in the Mojave.

Grand Central is a palace; one of the most impressive indoor spaces I've ever experienced. I'm still angry I never got to see old Penn Station, but much as it pains me to admit it, if we had to lose one, we probably kept the right one.

Speaking of losing things, took a ride on one of SEPTA's PCC II's yesterday on the #15 Girard Avenue line before SEPTA replaces them all with buses at the end of the week. The agency refurbished them only 15 years ago, so they have a wonderful combination of Machine Age looks with air conditioning, ADA accessibility, and a modern interior layout (much less cramped than the bigger, heavier Kawasaki LRVs SEPTA has been running on the surviving trolley lines since 1981). Unfortunately, SEPTA, PennDOT, and the City of Philadelphia have conspired, mostly through incompetence, to kill the #15 trolley route. SEPTA "indefinitely" bustituted it in the 90s, only to be strongarmed by the city into reopening it in 2005. PennDOT then promptly cut the line in half with a never-ending I-95 reconstruction project that forced the trolleys to terminate at Front Street instead of continuing into Port Richmond. Meanwhile, the City got SEPTA to restore the line, but made no effort to keep it viable; the trolleys were routinely blocked by double parked cars and the city refused to conduct the kind of sustained, aggressive parking enforcement it would have taken to keep the line clear. In the end, with SEPTA having to machine all the replacement parts for the trolleys themselves and the I-95 project now threatening to cut off access to the Front Street turnaround loop, the agency is finally pulling the plug on a line they probably never really wanted in the first place, and we're going to lose a light rail line (connecting two rapid transit lines) to a highway expansion project in the Year of our Lord 2020.SEPTA PCC II, in happier times

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Posted by Tinplate Toddler on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 2:33 PM

RedImperator
we're going to lose a light rail line (connecting two rapid transit lines) to a highway expansion project in the Year of our Lord 2020.

Sounds like a rather stupid decision when the rest of the world is investing heavily into light rail public transport.

Thanks for sharing the picture - I really like those PCC cars.

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Posted by RedImperator on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 2:41 PM

I love Philadelphia more than any place on Earth but it frustrates me very much sometimes. "Sounds like a stupid decision" could be our official motto

Tinplate Toddler

 

 
RedImperator
we're going to lose a light rail line (connecting two rapid transit lines) to a highway expansion project in the Year of our Lord 2020.

 

Sounds like a rather stupid decision when the rest of the world is investing heavily into light rail public transport.

Thanks for sharing the picture - I really like those PCC cars.

 

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Posted by BATMAN on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 3:15 PM

RedImperator
Sounds like a rather stupid decision when the rest of the world is investing heavily into light rail public transport.

Well, they are putting light rail projects on hold all over the world as a new cheaper alternative is coming online. No rails, no wires, the infrastructure is a lot less costly and wireless charging has come into its own. There will be lapses in transportation capability for a period of time but given the new tech coming it does not make sense to spend billions on antiquated transportation systems. Talk about wasting taxpayer dollars.

Locally, near where I live the light rail was scrapped as well and future major bridge and highway designs are having major changes made to them to accommodate future modern technology.

 The greater Vancouver rapid transit system has been driverless since its inception in the 1980s.

As with so many issues reading about why things are like they are, goes far beyond what the news media tells us. Laying light rail only to have it dug up in a few years because the new system is so much cheaper does not make sense.

This is an old video but you get the idea.

How's that buggy whip business working out these days.Laugh

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Posted by howmus on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 3:29 PM

Howdy!

MisterBeasley
I agree with going up, but for a different reason. If you have a cell phone, it will be useless in a back country valley, but you might pick up a signal on top of a mountain, or the system might pick up your phone and guide rescuers to you.

Actually that is an excellent idea!  Also with GPS and maps, you can much easier go to a location where you can be found...  Back when I was trained at BSA National Office (a camp), cell phones were not around much.  They were more like the ones on "Get Smart". LOL  Being able for rescue crews to find you would be a real plus today.

Well......  (deep subject).  I spent most of my "free" time for the last couple days sitting here at my computer.  Just bought a brand new car.  It will be made for me and delivered in  6 to 9 weeks they say.  Knowing me, can you guess what it is?

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Posted by BATMAN on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 3:51 PM

howmus
Knowing me, can you guess what it is?

Image result for big exhaust spewing pickup truck

?Smile, Wink & GrinLaugh

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Posted by howmus on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 4:02 PM

LOL!!!!!  I love it!  You made my day!  Back in the day, I might have liked the Stanley Steamer... Smile, Wink & GrinLaugh  But, Nope, not even close.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 4:28 PM

Another thing about cell phones in the back country:

If you have no service where you are and want to save your battery power, turn the phone off until you might expect service.  A phone will use a lot of power if it can't find a signal and is constantly searching.  When I used to ski, I kept my phone off most of the time because at lower elevations I had no signal, and the battery would be dead by the end of the day.

If it's cold, keep the phone on an inner pocket.  Cold kills batteries, too.

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Posted by Tinplate Toddler on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 5:07 PM

BATMAN
Well, they are putting light rail projects on hold all over the world as a new cheaper alternative is coming online.

Then I must be living in a different world.

Germany has a quite extensive network of light rail and streetcar systems and is continuing to invest in these systems, as are other European countries. There is no need to give up on existing infrastructure and to go back to road-based, bus-like systems which share the right of way with the rest of urban traffic. I just try to picture that "train" in the narrow streets of Paris or Rome or London ...

 

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Posted by BATMAN on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 5:16 PM

Tinplate Toddler
There is no need to give up on existing infrastructure and to go back to road-based, bus-like systems which share the right of way with the rest of urban traffic.

You are right Ulrich, I was talking about places where no pre-existing light rail exists yet, such as where I live. Anywhere starting from scratch seems to be having a lot of second thoughts about light rail.

I should have been more clear about that, my bad. My Brother-in-law was top dog in our most recent rapid transit expansion (Skytrain) and the things he talks about that may be coming online down the road has not even hit the radar of the mainstream media yet. 

Brent

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 5:36 PM

GMTRacing
Malones is a great place to eat and there are 3-4 other resturants right there if you're talking about the same hotel area in Atlanta.

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Yes, you have Malones, Spondivits, Louisisana Bistreaux, and until recently, The Pig & The Pint all right there on Virginia Avenue. The restaurants are the main reason I stay in this part of Atlanta.

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Posted by BigDaddy on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 5:41 PM

The US made the decision to abandon rails and build roads.  I saw a TV show that claimed that General Motors bought up street car lines, so they could kill them.  Maybe true, maybe not, but the rail line from Baltimore to the state capital of Annapolis is a bike path, as are many other commuter lines of the past. 

There are studies to either build a Japanese Mag Lev train from Baltimore to Washington or have Elon Musk tunnel 35 miles with his hyper loop.  There are commuter trains between the two cities, but they are subservient to CSX.   They run late as matter of course.  Snow delays them for hours.

One of the proposed end points for the maglev would require the razing of a historic courthouse.  The other possibility is a neighborhood that no one would willingly go to.

The traffic planners all worship at the church of concrete.  Every few years, they add 2 more lanes.  That in itself is a couple years of construction and traffic is better for 2-3 months and then it's traffic jam all over again.

This mornings' traffic report:  traffic on the beltway around Baltimore was 10 mph for an 8-12 lane highway. 

The other problem is it is a big country.  People are commuting from Pennsylvania and the eastern shore of Maryland to both Baltimore and Washington.  Even those who would take a train, if they existed, isn't going to change trains two or three times to get home.  So we sit in traffic.

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Posted by Tinplate Toddler on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 6:00 PM

Brent - while road-based systems (or should I say a super bus) may have an advantage in terms of infrastructure cost, they require more energy to move people, as the friction is much higher. So far, any attempt of having "trains" running without rails or, like the Mestre to Venice tram in Italy, on one rail only, proved to be ineffective in the end.

Henry - it used to be quite similar here. However, when the train service got improved, more and more people changed their mode of transport.

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Posted by York1 on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 6:06 PM

SeeYou190
Yes, you have Malones, Spondivits, Louisisana Bistreaux, and until recently, The Pig & The Pint all right there on Virginia Avenue. The restaurants are the main reason I stay in this part of Atlanta.

 

If you're where I think you are, there is a Waffle House right there.  Of course, there aren't many places in Atlanta that aren't near a Waffle House.

I don't care what anyone (including my wife) says about it, I love Waffle House.

Where else can you get bacon, eggs, sausage, and hashbrowns, served by waitresses who argue with the cooks, right in front of you?

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Posted by mbinsewi on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 7:44 PM

BigDaddy
The traffic planners all worship at the church of concrete. 

And are puppets to the HUGE road builders lobby.

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Posted by howmus on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 8:29 PM

well.....  Deep subject.  Only one taker on what I just spent my kids inheritance on today!  (And that one was a bit off, although I did find it interesting.)

Of course it hasn't been built yet, but I should be picking it up (they may deliver it to my house) in somewhere between 6 and 9 weeks from the factory.

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Posted by moelarrycurly4 on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 9:52 PM

howmus

well.....  Deep subject.  Only one taker on what I just spent my kids inheritance on today!  (And that one was a bit off, although I did find it interesting.)

Of course it hasn't been built yet, but I should be picking it up (they may deliver it to my house) in somewhere between 6 and 9 weeks from the factory.

73

 

 

What is it? Tesla?

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Posted by Tinplate Toddler on Wednesday, January 22, 2020 12:16 AM

Congrats, Ray! A nice car in a nice color! Way out of my reach, but if I had the change in my pocket, I´d certainly would fancy it (or any other EV)

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Wednesday, January 22, 2020 5:22 AM

York1
Of course, there aren't many places in Atlanta that aren't near a Waffle House.

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There are actually TWO Waffle Houses within walking distance. One is right in between Spondivits and Malones. The other is about 1/2 mile down the road.

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Waffle House is one of the best places to eat after a late-night concert.

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Posted by howmus on Wednesday, January 22, 2020 7:15 AM

Mornin' folks!

I need to get over to the Fieldhouse a bit early today as I have a dermatologist appt. early afternoon.

moelarrycurly4
What is it? Tesla?

Right on the money!  It is a Model 3.  Doesn't have all the extra stuff that would have made it out of my price range), but it has a 250 mile range (may be more.  320 miles???  not sure), the Auto Pilot (prevents accidents), just 2 wheel drive but can still 0-60 in less than 5 seconds.  Top speed is 145 MPH. That is plenty for this old guy!!!  Gets 116 MPGe which is NOT BAD!

An old college buddy of mine emailed me and said, that is a chick magnet!  I could care less as long as a certain "chick" I am dating likes it.  She will get one of the first rides in it!  It will be nice to be able to drive to her house, around Penfield, NY or wherever, and back home again on electric from the roof of my house and still have plenty of range.

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Posted by York1 on Wednesday, January 22, 2020 8:50 AM

Good morning.  Same old, same old -- snow this morning, snow tomorrow, snow Friday.  Next week they predict we'll get into the upper 30s, so something might actually melt.

Ray, that's a nice looking car.  My daughter just got one several weeks ago.  She loves it.

Hope everyone has a good day.

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