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Posted by Tinplate Toddler on Sunday, January 19, 2020 8:34 AM

Good Afternoon!

My back is yelling insults at me today, which makes me a rather unhappy camper. I don´t want to start throwing pain killers at it, so I´ll just have to grin and bear it.

Talking of beer - I have been a beer drinker in my younger days, but turned to fermented grape juice in my "wiser" years. As a German, I prefer to abstain from commenting on other nation´s beer brewing expertise. Some of the stuff wouldn´t be allowed to be called beer or sold as such in my neck of the woods. We have a law dating back from 1516, ruling that only barley, hop, yeast and water can be used in beer making. Belgium has a reputation of using anything for that, including rice, cherries and maybe old socks Smile, Wink & Grin. There is one brew in Antwerp which I quite liked. It was called "Duivels" and it had a hellish good taste to it. Two glasses were enough to make you sing the Belgian national anthem! It´s a 16 proof beer, about twice as much as a regular US beer. During my various stays in the US, I had the chance to quaff a few, but while I found them refreshing, I found them too "light-bodied", when compared to my local brews. With the intended move to Denmark, I will have to learn how to drink either a "Tuborg" or a "Faxe". "Faxe" beer beats nearly any cocktail.

 Tuborg is actually a pretty good premium beer. However, I still go for a Guiness in those Gaelic moments in my life.

Is maith liom mo chara!

 

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Posted by mbinsewi on Sunday, January 19, 2020 8:56 AM

I like any craft beer with wheat, I hate IPA's.

Another favorite of mine is Hacker Pschorr weisse.

I can only take it in small doses.  I have to watch my uric acid levels, and beer is the worst.

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Sunday, January 19, 2020 9:20 AM

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a young couple will wear out the mattress quicker.

 

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Thanks for the chuckle Ken! How do you explain that if there is a warranty claim?!?

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Sunday, January 19, 2020 9:23 AM

SeeYou190

 

 
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I'm not overly fond of the current trends in IPA beers.

 

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I am with you on that. I find IPAs to be terrible. There is another trend towards sour beers, which I think taste like rotten champagne.

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I do enjoy a tasty craft beer. Belgian styles are my favorite. You will not find a craft beer at my Super Bowl party though. Budweiser, Pabst Blue Ribbon, and Miller High Life are all that is allowed at that celebration.

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LION drinks RED BUG JUICE!

About 5 gallons per week.

 

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Posted by BigDaddy on Sunday, January 19, 2020 10:28 AM

Logged into Facebook to find on of my friends, late 60's, who drove safely from Florida to Alaska and back this summer on his Harley and who posted a pic of his totaled motorcycle just a month ago, has no memory of the 2 weeks following the accident.

Then I looked at the email from my motorcycle club and one of my friends there is working overseas and found that his wife, whom he separated with earlier this year had committed suicide and killed both their dogs. 

He too is in his late 60's and I hadn't spoken to him in a year.  His wife was 20 years younger, seemed a little earthy crunchy, but otherwise pscyhologically normal.   He's got to be devastated.  

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Sunday, January 19, 2020 11:19 AM

The GF and I are big fans of craft IPAs and many other craft beers, but not those sours.  Like flavored vaping products, sours seemed aimed at the youth market, not us seasoned beer and ale people.  Some are surprised to learn that with all the acquisitions by foreign companies, the largest American-owned brewery is now Sam Adams.

We only patronize local craft breweries here.  It's been a couple of years since my last Bud, and that literally went down the drain.  Now, I drink beers named Arrogant Bast*ard or Raging B*tch.  My only "light" beer is called "Slightly Mighty," from Dogfish Head.

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Posted by Tinplate Toddler on Sunday, January 19, 2020 12:04 PM

The fool I am, I had to look it up, what an IPA beer is - India Pale Ale! That´s a kind of brew with a slightly higher content of hop in it, but also a little more zing. IPA beers were shipped to India and the brewers intended to counteract any loss of alcoholic content by adding a tad more to the brew. In the end, it is much like German Bockbier, which also has a lot more rpm´s and a noticeable stronger hop flavor.

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Posted by Track fiddler on Sunday, January 19, 2020 1:45 PM

Good afternoon.

Here's an FYI for you guys I learned about a year ago that I found interesting.

Judy and I shared some Coronas at our hotel room when we were in Wisconsin visiting the House On The Rock.  It may have been one of those times of overindulgenceLaughPirate   

Our intestines felt inside out the next morning and was not a very comfortable feeling so I did some research.

Most beer and booze are loaded with GMOs.  Genetically Modified Organisms.  Unfortunately necessary to keep up with the population explosion and high demand to feed the world.  They call it the food machine. 

GMOs are in most of our crops and also fed to livestock so no matter how you try you are going to get them one way or another in your food intake.  Unless you're one of those one hundred percent organic shoppers but there's controversy with this as well.

We have to eat but we might as well not drink GMOs tooWhistling

There are boozes and beers that do not have them.  Heineken and Amstel Light are of the few.  I heard German beers don't contain them either.  Europe has stricter FDA than the US.

I thought you may find this as interesting as I did..... I guess we get what we pay forSmile, Wink & Grin

 

 

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Posted by Tinplate Toddler on Sunday, January 19, 2020 2:06 PM

Track fiddler
Europe has stricter FDA than the US

While I am not sure about that, I know that GMOs are basically banned in the EU. There are a few exemptions, but they must be clearly declared.

Personally, I wouldn´t touch that stuff.

Track fiddler
Unfortunately necessary to keep up with the population explosion and high demand to feed the world.

That´s what they keep on telling us, but I don´t think there is an ounce of truth in that. The vast majority of people in the world still rely on organically grown food.

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Posted by dti406 on Sunday, January 19, 2020 2:16 PM

MisterBeasley

The GF and I are big fans of craft IPAs and many other craft beers, but not those sours.  Like flavored vaping products, sours seemed aimed at the youth market, not us seasoned beer and ale people.  Some are surprised to learn that with all the acquisitions by foreign companies, the largest American-owned brewery is now Sam Adams.

We only patronize local craft breweries here.  It's been a couple of years since my last Bud, and that literally went down the drain.  Now, I drink beers named Arrogant Bast*ard or Raging B*tch.  My only "light" beer is called "Slightly Mighty," from Dogfish Head.

 

Same here I have not had any of the mule **** from the major brewers in 40 years and stick to the craft brewers. Mostly I do the beers from the Great Lakes Craft Brewery here in Cleveland, they have many IPA's, Lagers, Porter's and Ales named after things in the area like Commodore Perry, Burning River, Eliot Ness and Edmund Fitzgerald.  They also produce seasonals like Christmas Ale and Octoberfest.

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Posted by Track fiddler on Sunday, January 19, 2020 2:38 PM

Tinplate Toddler

 

Personally, I wouldn´t touch that stuff.

 

 

Smart man!  You will get no argument with me on that one Ulrich.

Organic shopping is very expensive over here in the US and it's been under a lot of controversy whether you're really getting one hundred percent organic food.

Ever since I cut my liquid diet down significantly,  I easily afford the more expensive organic food shoppingWhistling Laugh   I just wish I was 100% certain I am getting all organic food.

 

 

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Posted by Tinplate Toddler on Sunday, January 19, 2020 2:47 PM

Track fiddler
Organic shopping is very expensive over here in the US and it's been under a lot of controversy whether you're really getting one hundred percent organic food.

It´s a big debate over here as well. I think it´s more of a marketing scheme, given the amount of organic food available in the shelves - sometimes at prices ridiculously high, sometimes too low to be true.

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Posted by Track fiddler on Sunday, January 19, 2020 2:57 PM

Tinplate Toddler

 

It´s a big debate over here as well. I think it´s more of a marketing scheme, given the amount of organic food available in the shelves - sometimes at prices ridiculously high, sometimes too low to be true.

 

 

Yep..... Agreed! 

I still try to do the best I can with it though,  that's all you can do.  We try to keep the majority of our diet organic but I must admit, we are not always completely faithful.

I don't think anyone wonders why the frequency of cancer has increased 600% since the 1930s.

 

 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Sunday, January 19, 2020 3:02 PM

Track fiddler
controversy whether you're really getting one hundred percent organic food.

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You aren't.

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You also cannot get truly organic food at a farmer's market.

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Health food stores here in Florida have been found selling GMO product. GNC is blatently lying about what is in those capsules.

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I could tell you exactly what "Organic" means, because I have seen the selection process with my own two eyes in the produce packing plants.

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But, I don't hold a valid passport, so I will keep my underinformed semi-ignorant knowledge to myself.

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Grow your own, or roll the dice.

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Posted by Track fiddler on Sunday, January 19, 2020 3:21 PM

SeeYou190

 

 
Track fiddler
controversy whether you're really getting one hundred percent organic food.

 

You aren't.

Grow your own, or roll the dice.

 

 

 

 

Rodger that Kevin.

God I miss our vegetable garden.  Judy and I used to do such a great job with that and had a lot of fun with it too.

One of the many drawbacks to the new condo life.  I try to keep the regrets down though.  The trade-offs to the Easy Living was worth itSmile

 

 

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Posted by York1 on Sunday, January 19, 2020 3:25 PM

I don't want to cause a problem here, so please take this as discussion and not argument.

What is a GMO?  Definitions are endless.  Is it genetically modifying food?

Genetically modifying food and animals has been around for thousands of years.  The ancient Egyptians were genetically modifying their grain and animals.

Virtually every plant and animal has been genetically modified in some way.  I'm sitting here with my dachshund, a genetically modified dog.

The issue has only come up because we are now modifying some of the genes in a lab instead of the field.  This is what some, including the EU, use as their standard for a GMO.

There have been studies. And studies.  And studies.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-people-oppose-gmos-even-though-science-says-they-are-safe/

 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Sunday, January 19, 2020 3:40 PM

John, you are correct. We have been modifying crops since the invention of irrigation.

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The biggest, and probably only, problem we have in the USA with GMO crops is when something that has been approved as animal feed, and not people food, makes it into the food processing plants.

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The one I best recall was a few years ago when an animal feed type of GMO corn ended up in a taco shell manufacturer. It was recalled. People were acting like they mixed rat poison in the food. It was completely overblown.

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Posted by mbinsewi on Sunday, January 19, 2020 3:45 PM

SeeYou190
But, I don't hold a valid passport, so I will keep my underinformed semi-ignorant knowledge to myself. .

I guess your not going to let go of that, are you. Confused

Lots of small organic farming going in WI.

There are standards that need to be met to label as organic.  Standards vary around the world, but all include not using pesticides and herbicides, or any other chemicals.

Most of the organic farms in WI are in the mid and western parts of the state.

Many form, or a part of cooperatives, to get their food to market.

The central part of WI is filled giant growers of produce that find their way into frozen food producers, and are in the bags of frozen vegies you get from the store, like Libby, Delmonty, Green Giant and others.

These are not organic because they use some pesticides and herbicides.

Big games going on today!  If your a football fan.

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Posted by Track fiddler on Sunday, January 19, 2020 3:51 PM

SeeYou190

The one I best recall was a few years ago when an animal feed type of GMO corn ended up in a taco shell 

 

 

Laugh  I remember that one.  The feed corn taco shells.

You know when a fast food restaurant has a little dog doing the commercial saying I want some tacosLaugh...... Maybe that isn't the best place to go get a taco.

The funnier thing is sometimes I still doLaugh

 

 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Sunday, January 19, 2020 3:55 PM

mbinsewi
I guess your not going to let go of that, are you.

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Probably not for a while, but I won't mention it again.

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Track fiddler
I remember that one.  The feed corn taco shells.

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My best memory of that was a woman standing on the street crying about how she fed one of those tacos to her kids with the GMO shell, and how could this be allowed to happen.

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Seriously, you are feeding your kids 79 cent fast food tacos and you want me to believe that healthy options were your #1 consideration?

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The GMO corn might still have been the healthiest part of that meal.

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Posted by York1 on Sunday, January 19, 2020 4:40 PM

I know I talk about the weather a lot, but living out here on the plains, that's about the only thing we have to discuss.  If you've ever driven along I-80 in Nebraska, you know what I mean.  There's nothing here but the weather.

I just walked the dog.  It's 12°F (-11C).  Tonight it's zero.  Tomorrow, it's 3° for the high.  Even the dog wanted to come back inside.

Now all of you in Canada, ND, and Minnesota can call me a wimp, and with your temps, you're right.

But I am really tired of cold, snow, ice, and darkness.

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Posted by NWP SWP on Sunday, January 19, 2020 5:06 PM

Hello all,

I hope everyone is well, I just haven't had the time to read through the diner and post regularly.

I have had the Mustang for about a month now, I have managed to get pulled over not once but TWICE! The first time was in a place I know better than to be speeding, by my estimation I was probably going around 15-20+ PSL, on a straight shretch of highway without any traffic, long story short the LEO wrote a ticket for 28 over in a 55, which I don't believe because I know this area is notorious for speed traps, I would NEVER be going 28 over there, thankfully he didn't give me a citation for careless operation as well, I plan on lawyering up to at least get it reduced, I doubt it as this town is know for being hokey with traffic enforcement (the previous mayor was offering bonuses for each ticket written).

The second one was me following the pack of cars in front of me at a safe distance, we all were doing like 10-15+ PSL which is 55, but 10-15+ is flow of traffic, this time the officer gave me a warning and sent me on my way so thats a plus.

 

In other news I went on my first date on Friday, I met a young lady at a friends birthday party, we hit it off right away but she "friendzoned" me right off the bat, after her continued signals to the contrary I asked her out, we are now starting to date and see what happens! After the date I asked how I did for my first date ever, she was like "wait you've never been on a date before?" I was like "Yeah." she then said I exceeded her expectations and that it was the nicest date she has ever been on. Also at the restaurant she stated that she had never been to that fancy of a restaurant on a date before.

 

Well thats all from me for now, ciao!

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Posted by howmus on Sunday, January 19, 2020 5:12 PM

Evenin' folks.....

mbinsewi
There are standards that need to be met to label as organic. Standards vary around the world, but all include not using pesticides and herbicides, or any other chemicals.

The problem with GMOs is not that they have genetic engineering but rather what they are genetically engineered to withstand.  Yes a "GMO" can be considered organic but can not have certain pestcides and herbicides used on them.  GMO's are grown usually using some really nasty chemicals that do end up in the product,  Then are eaten by animals that we consume and the toxins are passed on to us, or we consume the products that have been treated directly.  I remember a big bag of DDT out in the back shed that we used to dust sweet corn with back when I was a kid growing that for sale at our stand (and also had lots of it for supper too).  We didn't bother to use gloves or any other protective devices when we dusted the crops with it.  Dad just told us to be sure to wash our hands after we did that.....  Well Duh!  My dad wasn't very happy when they published exactly how toxic to people the crap was!  2,4,D was a weed killer that we used on weeds also (mostly in the lawn) Got quite a bit of that crap on my hands as well.  When I was working at the golf course summers when I was first married and at college.  I remember spraying weed killer I had to mix in the big tank by hand with an oar, then driving the tractor spraying the "crap" on the fairways to kill weeds and some blowing back at me.  I also remember going home and throwing up for several hours and being sick as a dog for a couple days afterward.

What I don't want in my food (if I can help it) is the poisons that get sprayed on crops that are fed to anything and then we eat it.  I buy organic as often as I can! 'tis a wonder I have not yet died of some disease related to the garbage I was exposed to as a young person.  Every day I don't wake up and find I have developed cancer or some other disease that those chemicals can cause I am thankful!  It is not the GMO, as such, that is the problem, my friends.  Our reliance on some poisons is causing all kinds of problems (think bees and butterflies.  The food we eat often needs to be pollinated...) 

OK I'll get off my soapbox before Vinnie swats me....

Oh.... Steven! Thumbs UpThumbs Up

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Posted by Track fiddler on Sunday, January 19, 2020 5:13 PM

SeeYou190

 

 
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I remember that one.  The feed corn taco shells.

 

The GMO corn might still have been the healthiest part of that meal.

 

 

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I don't know if you were being sarcastic Kevin but actually you have that darn straight.

I knew someone that worked there and told me some horror stories that I would not even repeat in fear of getting sued,  just in case they were not true.

Something about the dehydrated beef reconstituted and ran through the homogenizerLaugh

Like I said,  it's just hearsay not fact but the funny thing is I still sometimes go there.

But then again I've heard the horror stories about hot dogs and I still eat those tooLaugh Tongue Tied   When you're hungry it's a quick fixWhistling

 

 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Sunday, January 19, 2020 5:17 PM

Track fiddler
the funny thing is I still sometimes go there.

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When you are hungy at 2:00 AM, you pretty much need to run for the border!

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I'm not proud of the fact I eat there sometimes, but I do eat there sometimes.

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Posted by Track fiddler on Sunday, January 19, 2020 5:23 PM

And the only thing that makes this stuff good is the loads of taco sauce packets I put on them,  actually the sauce is pretty good.

And then I need to make a run for the other border first thing in the morningSad LaughLaughLaugh

 

 

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Posted by York1 on Sunday, January 19, 2020 5:28 PM

Well, I'm happy!  The Chiefs have won.  I can breathe a little easier now.

Now I can relax and watch the second game.

I'll pull for the Packers.  I hate the 49ers (and I don't care all that much about the city of San Francisco, either).

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Posted by Track fiddler on Sunday, January 19, 2020 5:36 PM

You know John, I've had this conversation with several of my friends today.

How can I root for the team that knocked the Vikings out of the playoffs.  I was smart enough to know the Vikings were not a good enough team this year.

I can't believe that I'm saying this but I'm going to root for my neighbor.

GO PACK  I have always had a great time in Wisconsin.

A tough decision but with the Vikes out of the equation,  I will vote for the RivalryIndifferent

 

 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Sunday, January 19, 2020 6:06 PM

Track fiddler
I can't believe that I'm saying this but I'm going to root for my neighbor. GO PACK

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Welcome to the darkside, now your transition is complete.

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Have a cookie!

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Sunday, January 19, 2020 6:10 PM

I used to run a radio astronomy observatory.  I was proud of my telescope operations staff, but one time they all went way beyond to give a visiting astromer the best experience they could, under the circumstances.

It was a lovely fall day.  He had taken a drive in the New England countryside, bought a fresh apple at a farmstand, at it and came back.  Suddenly, he was sick as a dog for several days.  We figured he had not rinsed the apple, and it still had pesticides on it.

My operators kept him as comfortable as they could, and took his handwritten instructions to take care of the work he couldn't do.  I was never so proud of my team.

So, rinse anything you get from a farmstand.

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