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Posted by riogrande5761 on Wednesday, September 11, 2019 6:48 AM

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I do not preorder anything. I like reading reviews. Almost anything can be bought at a discount through outfits like M.B. Klein or even better at train shows.

As a rule, I don't either, but if you want to order items that happen to be popular at a discount through say MB Klein, you have to watch Kleins website like a hawk as some items sell out very quickly after they are listed, like a few hours - next day, sold out.  Train shows are more for treasure hunting hard to find items, not getting recently produced products at a discount, at least based on my many many trips to train shows since the mid-1980's.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Wednesday, September 11, 2019 8:39 AM

riogrande5761
Train shows are more for treasure hunting hard to find items, not getting recently produced products at a discount,

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There are two annual model train shows in Florida that are presented by Golden Spike Enterprises.

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At each of these, there are several dealers selling nothing but new items at very good prices.

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All other train shows I know of are like you described. Great places for treasure hunting and finding out of production rarities.

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-Kevin

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Posted by trainnut1250 on Thursday, September 12, 2019 3:23 AM

ATLANTIC CENTRAL

Kevin, you and I are the last of the freelance/protolance modelers.

 

Sheldon,

I presume that comment was for dramatic effect.... There are lots of us out there...

 

Guy

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Posted by BRAKIE on Thursday, September 12, 2019 5:02 AM

riogrande5761
The documentary comment comes off as sounding somewhat intolerant of other aspects of the hobby and isn't fair to those who "have fun" with models that are good matches to real freight cars.

Jim,Some times that's a two way street as you know from reading some comments on other forums. 

Be that has it may.

My (as of now) 72 high detailed cars serves me just as well as my (gasp!) older BB and Roundhouse cars did and I still can't see the finer details while I am switching cars and looking at the numbers or while throwing a switch.

Without a doubt I have question my sanity for buying those higher priced detailed cars seeing my older BB and Roundhouse cars  did the same job equally well.Sigh

OTOH.

They do look much better next to my detailed engines so,in the end and IMHO  its a eye candy trade off. 

I suppose the moral of the story is  I'm still having fun switching industries on my ISL just like I did with my older BB and Roundhouse cars except now my cars are more detailed,accurate and yes,more costly..

Larry

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Posted by BRAKIE on Thursday, September 12, 2019 5:09 AM

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You are welcome to compromise where you see fit, I will do the same, I was simply replying to Kevin and his lament regarding the lack of freelance modeling today. Sheldon

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Larry

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Posted by ATLANTIC CENTRAL on Thursday, September 12, 2019 5:42 AM

trainnut1250

 

 
ATLANTIC CENTRAL

Kevin, you and I are the last of the freelance/protolance modelers.

 

 

 

Sheldon,

I presume that comment was for dramatic effect.... There are lots of us out there...

 

Guy

 

Obviously, point being there are no where near as many people modeling their own fictional freelanced roadnames as there was years ago.

In the 50's thru the 80's you saw many, maybe even most, published modelers with their own roads, today you hardly see that at all in the hobby press.

And as this forum goes, Keven and I are among the most outspoken on the topic.

Sheldon

    

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Posted by PRR8259 on Thursday, September 12, 2019 10:55 AM

Sheldon--

Great career story above.

Unfortunately, your story is very nearly impossible to duplicate today.  Sure perhaps a few, but not as common as...then.

I now work for one of the very best firms to work for in the state, and perhaps the country.  It is still a family owned, non-stock-market-traded engineering firm, but has about 2,500 people in the entire company, all within the U.S.

Nobody is getting in the door here, in the state of PA, without a B.S. in Civil Engineering.  Traditional drafters, engineering technicians, whatever are on the way out.  The reasoning is that when times get tough, they want the engineer who today is viewed as being able to do everything from drafting to design (once trained), whereas the traditional drafter or engineering technician is viewed as being "limited" in what they can do, to mainly the drafting and related tasks.

It is harder to go the "non-degreed" path in many fields, but NOT all.

John

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Posted by ATLANTIC CENTRAL on Thursday, September 12, 2019 11:29 AM

PRR8259

Sheldon--

Great career story above.

Unfortunately, your story is very nearly impossible to duplicate today.  Sure perhaps a few, but not as common as...then.

I now work for one of the very best firms to work for in the state, and perhaps the country.  It is still a family owned, non-stock-market-traded engineering firm, but has about 2,500 people in the entire company, all within the U.S.

Nobody is getting in the door here, in the state of PA, without a B.S. in Civil Engineering.  Traditional drafters, engineering technicians, whatever are on the way out.  The reasoning is that when times get tough, they want the engineer who today is viewed as being able to do everything from drafting to design (once trained), whereas the traditional drafter or engineering technician is viewed as being "limited" in what they can do, to mainly the drafting and related tasks.

It is harder to go the "non-degreed" path in many fields, but NOT all.

John

 

Thanks John,

Yes, I agree it might be hard to do today. But then or now, I have known/seen so many "Willy Loman's" in my life, people just doing something because it is what they know, or went to school for, and because someone told them they could make a reasonable living, with no regard for their happiness in their work.

My father told me at an early age, "no matter what you do for a living, you had better like it, because most likely you will never be a billionaire".

I took his advice, if I did not like something, I moved on, or found a better situation. My life time list of job titles is very long........

You know many of the great Architects of the late 19th and early 20th centuries were college dropouts, Sullivan, Wright, Van der Rohe, and others. Yet today that profession is full of well degreed mediocrity and they don't let you in the club without the degree.....

I'm happy to just be called a Residential Designer, Historic Rstoration Consultant and Master Carpenter.

Glad I decided against architecture school. My primary business associate says I'm too smart to be an Architect, and one of my well educated clients says I am an autodidact. I will take their world for it, but I just think I have a mechanical mind that just gets this kind of stuff naturally.

Sheldon

    

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