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GE Genesis B-Unit Kitbash

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GE Genesis B-Unit Kitbash
Posted by NWP SWP on Wednesday, March 14, 2018 3:10 PM

I'll get right to the point, I have four Athearn GE Amtrak P42s 3 are powered 1 is a dummyDunce (as in not poweredLaugh) I'd like to bash the dummy and one of the powered units into a B unit, then add decoders to all three, them custom paint and decal them in NWP-SWP paint. How would you guys suggest to proceed?

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Posted by mobilman44 on Wednesday, March 14, 2018 4:51 PM

Before you bust up any of the units, take the two (not to be kitbashed) units and "custom paint and decal in the NWP/SWP paint scheme".   When that is done - and you find it satisfactory, then proceed with the kitbash.

That said, kitbashing locos is not for the faint at heart.  I would think that over carefully before you take a razor saw to it.

 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Wednesday, March 14, 2018 5:18 PM

mobilman44
take the two (not to be kitbashed) units and "custom paint and decal in the NWP/SWP paint scheme".

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I 100% agree with this advice. Get the A/A set in your scheme, get the decoders installed, get them running, then move onto the more difficult part of the project.

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Great advice!

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Posted by tstage on Wednesday, March 14, 2018 6:37 PM

NWP SWP
How would you guys suggest to proceed?

Start your lawn care business first...

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Posted by 7j43k on Wednesday, March 14, 2018 7:09 PM

mobilman44

Before you bust up any of the units, take the two (not to be kitbashed) units and "custom paint and decal in the NWP/SWP paint scheme".   When that is done - and you find it satisfactory, then proceed with the kitbash. 

 

 

Pull that off, and you'll have more completed projects than me.

 

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Posted by NWP SWP on Wednesday, March 14, 2018 8:40 PM

I just did a test fit by turning the shell around, no modifications to the frame are needed other than perhaps some shimming at the Front end. I'm going to get working on the paint and decals for the A units.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Wednesday, March 14, 2018 9:03 PM

Please post pictures.

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Posted by NWP SWP on Wednesday, March 14, 2018 9:52 PM

 

 

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Posted by NWP SWP on Wednesday, March 14, 2018 9:59 PM

As you can see the shell and chassis tapers at the front end.

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Posted by mobilman44 on Thursday, March 15, 2018 6:01 AM

Gotta go with Tstage here.......... paint & custom decals and kitbashing supplies cost money.  

I would say "first things first", get that lawn business going.   I'm sure that the grass in Louisiana is growing just as fast as it is here in the Houston area, so there are a lot of folks out there needing the services of a good yardman.

The reality is, all our model railroading hopes and dreams will just not come to reality without money.  And for the majority of us, the only way to get it is through work. 

 

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Posted by richhotrain on Thursday, March 15, 2018 6:08 AM

NWP SWP

I have four Athearn GE Amtrak P42s 3 are powered 1 is a dummy. I'd like to bash the dummy and one of the powered units into a B unit

Why?

Is there even such a thing as an Amtrak P42 B-unit?

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Posted by mbinsewi on Thursday, March 15, 2018 7:04 AM

richhotrain
Is there even such a thing as an Amtrak P42 B-unit?

No, but, we've been here many times before. Whistling

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Posted by Overmod on Thursday, March 15, 2018 8:09 AM

One very simple and comparatively cheap step would be to go to Josh Moldover's paint shop site, download files for the appropriate Genesis locomotive (and figure out how to flip the elevation left to right) and design the actual B-unit (and its color scheme) using those drawings, before wasting any time actually tinkering with models, losing patience or attention, and winding up with a mess.

As a fringe benefit you will have a nice set of drawings for your wall, and a source for making masks, decals, etc. when actual modeling time approaches.

Note that you will need to take account of how stuff is laid out in a Genesis 'B-unit' -- for example, would the monocoque carbody be  physically shorter and,if so, by how much?  Then tinker with the paper dimensions...

If using an unmodified frame I would simply shim out the 'taper' if necessary.  But keep in mind a considerable area of roof will require very careful cutting and 'tiling' or replacement with stock either formed to a precise curve or sanded to it -- either of which is not a skill I think you have honed appropriately enough yet to be comfortable with.

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Posted by mbinsewi on Thursday, March 15, 2018 9:04 AM

Overmod
Josh Moldover's paint shop site,

http://paintshop.railfan.net/

Interesting.  I always wondered were the source was for such drawings.

Mike.

 

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