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Model Railroader on a diet?

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Posted by NWP SWP on Sunday, November 12, 2017 9:54 PM

Part of my dissatisfaction is lack of interesting story's and the other part is too few articles per issue.

I think part of it is caused by MRVP because they direct some of the content that would be in print into the MRVP production which is a problem for me because I spend a lot of time on the Internet reading and studying trains and model railroading but my Internet access is limited to my cell phone because I don't have home wifi (that's because I live in the country and I have to get satellite Internet and the price per gigabyte of data is not feasible) but either way with my phone or my old satellite Internet I don't have the data to watch 10 minute long videos all the time it would be like watching a few seconds pause it for 60 seconds then press play for a few seconds and pause again!

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Posted by Marc_Magnus on Monday, November 13, 2017 1:55 AM

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The all year layout building project which is just a small tabletop layout with nearly no countours, mountains or scratchbuild parts, come every time on a plywood panel or a door size table, is repetitive really repetitive.

 

Im just guessing here, but I think that MR's main market is the casual/beginner model railroader.  Otherwise you would see things like Proto87 wheelsets, Sergent couplers, superdetailed handlaid track (separately applied jointbars and tie plates), building a steam locomotive from brass etc.  

The layouts have to fit in their van so they can take them to shows, kind of limits what they can do.

Also Virginian Project Layout, had mountains, hills bridges, water features, kit bashing, and laser cut wood structures.  

Winston Salem Southbound (its next years layout) has already shown up in MRVP.

Plywood 4x8 is the "standard" beginner layout on this side of the ocean.  (I had an entire thread on that subject alone).  While not a fan of the 4x8, I get their point.  Most people have built or will build a 4x8.  Its where many people start.  

 
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No articles or rarely small one, about LASER kit, but on each visit of a layout MR publish, we see laser kit, they are a great part of the market now.

 

 

 

They did a whole video series on MRVP about building an American Model Builders caboose (Laser cut wood kit).  I think it was 9 parts, showed every single step of construction, even mistakes, all the way up to painting and decaling.

 
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Undless articles about weathering a car or a locomotives, but a structure need weathering and add ons details too, no or rarely articles about it.

 

MRVP videos about structure detailing. (WSS and others)

MR moved most of the detailed explaining into videos (some makes it to print).  Video is a better medium for teaching techniques and tips. 

 Gerry Leone does a monthy show on techniques and tips (speaking of), called off the rails.  

 
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Fastrack

 

Are you talking about the hand laid track company?  If so, just go to their Youtube channel....they tell you everything you need to know in their youtube video series, which is probably why MR doesnt do an article on it.  Fastracks own videos are more comprehensive than MR can posibly do in a series of print articles.

https://www.handlaidtrack.com/fast-tracks-videos

Tony Koester did a series on the Winston Salem Southbound project layout about handlaying track.  He doesnt use Fastracks jigs for any of it.  In case you hadnt checked them out, the fast tracks jigs are pricy.  Its about $200 or somewhere in that neighborhood to get all the tooling for the first turnout. 

I built my first handlaid turnout by watching those videos, then repeating the process.  I bought a couple of the fasttracks tools to speed the process.

 
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Arduino is the future of animation in our world train, a few quotes about it in some basic articles, no more.

 

Printing a sketch (I believe this is the proper term) would be a waste of paper, as you would have to type it back into a computer, but they could do one of those "online extra" things where you can download the sketch.  But they would have to pay someone to write it.  They would have to buy the legitimate Arduino boards (not really good form to use the clone in a published magazine).  

I wouldnt necessarily call it the future (on its own).  I would like to see a series of Arduino boards linked on a communication bus so that they can coordinate their actions, instead of a bunch of disjointed animations.  Maybe a controller area network...cough.

This months Sticky Stucco article was pretty neat.

In case anyone cares.

DEC 2017:

About 23 pages of advertisements out of 88 (Im counting the back page).

26% advertising..

Also the theme of this thread was mentioned in this months "build an Ambroid helium freight car kit".    And I want to thank them for that.  I now know what it takes to build one, and I have better things to do with 3 months of my free time (assuming I actually match the pace that Eric White achieved).  I'll just 3D print one if I want one...

 

Thanks for your remarks, but one things you may be forget, here we are speaking about the monthly paper MR publication.

I enjoy all the MR web publications, MRVP video's and articles.

Second, if you want to have access on all these vide'os and web articles, like the MR archive, the whole stuff access is quiet expensive beside the paper publication.

One thing I have always apprecied in MR, they show up techniques or products and never speak about to know if it's expensive or not, this is far away of the scope of any articles.

And about the beginner table top 4X8 which is show up each year, a small layout which can go in a small room could be also show up with a different design like an along the wall or a small included island, this was somewhere the design of the San Juan Central if you remember.

If I follow you, there is no need again to have a MR paper publication, we need to go to the MR website.

A well know online model railroad publication offer this whole stuff and forum but with a much affordable cost we must admit this dilema.

Internet publication is probably  the future of MR, but you can't feel how much I still enjoy to receive my monthly paper MR publication.

 

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Posted by Sir Madog on Monday, November 13, 2017 3:10 AM

Over the years, voices complaining about a lack of content can be heard with a certain frequency, yet none of them is willing to take the time and sit down and actually write an article, thus contributing to the content. Just go back in time and check old copies and you see many more different names than nowadays.

If no one is willing to submit an article, we have to live with what the MR team has the means to publish - a few layout tours, some product reviews an a limited amount of H2 articles, of which we all would most likely want to see more.

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Monday, November 13, 2017 6:48 AM

Sir Madog

Over the years, voices complaining about a lack of content can be heard with a certain frequency, yet none of them is willing to take the time and sit down and actually write an article, thus contributing to the content.

The above is a tired and worn out refrane.

 

People have tried and been rejected and complained about it here and other forums.  Enough preaching about people needing to get off their complacent backsides please.

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Posted by tommymr on Monday, November 13, 2017 7:07 AM
Lots of quotes here:
They did a whole video series on MRVP about building an American Model Builders caboose (Laser cut wood kit).  I think it was 9 parts, showed every single step of construction, even mistakes, all the way up to painting and decaling.
Have to subscribe to MRVP

MRVP videos about structure detailing. (WSS and others)

MR moved most of the detailed explaining into videos (some makes it to print).  Video is a better medium for teaching techniques and tips. 

 Again, have to subscribe to MRVP  

Second, if you want to have access on all these vide'os and web articles, like the MR archive, the whole stuff access is quiet expensive beside the paper publication
DING DING DING !

 

Over the years, voices complaining about a lack of content can be heard with a certain frequency, yet none of them is willing to take the time and sit down and actually write an article, thus contributing to the content. Just go back in time and check old copies and you see many more different names than nowadays.
I am not complaining about the cost of MR, but, magazines like Popular M and Popular S cost very little, and don't 'expect' me to write an article.
I've said before, when reader questions are printed in MR, the answer a lot of the time is "check out the All Access Pass, all your questions will be answered there (for an additional fee)
There is a "Consumers" magazine that tends to do the same thing,  If you really want the reviews, subscribe to the online content.
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Posted by Sir Madog on Monday, November 13, 2017 7:25 AM

riogrande5761
The above is a tired and worn out refrane.

Objection, just check issues of MR 20 years ago!

If you want MR to be like the MRRing mags in my country, where just about the entire content is made up by the editorial staff, than you have to be prepared to pay the prices they cost, which is $ 10+ per issue!

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Monday, November 13, 2017 7:38 AM

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You have to be prepared to pay the prices they cost, which is $ 10+ per issue!

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Most hobby magazines I subscribe to are in the $10.00-$12.00 per issue range, and are published in Europe.

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Yes, what MadDog says is true. Not only will the magazine become written by the editorial staff, but it will also be likely centered around one product line.

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I subscrbe to MR and FSM, and both are the best, and least expensive, magazines on my monthly list.

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If Kalmbach made a magazine on Table Top Wargaming, I would cancel my subscriptions to Miniature Wargaming, Military Modeler, and White Dwarf tomorrow, and save myself over $30.00 per month. Tamiya Modeler would be the only $10.00 per month magazine left in my mailbox.

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We have it good!

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Posted by RR_Mel on Monday, November 13, 2017 7:59 AM

I’ve submitted several articles over the years and all have been rejected.  I feel that I’m fairly good at model railroading, I’ve been at it for 65 years.  I’m not good at writing and my picture taking abilities could be better.  About three years ago I sent pictures and written data on a project to a published writer who complied everything for me and it was rejected too.  So I gave up.
 
I’ve entered several contests and I haven’t had an acceptance there either, usually an occasional thanks for your submission but . . . .   I’m not near the primo model railroader as many here on the forum but I guess for me trying to submit articles to the various magazines isn’t my forte.   
 
 
 
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Posted by SeeYou190 on Monday, November 13, 2017 8:05 AM

I submitted three articles to N Scale magazine back in the 1990s. None were printed. I also never received any rejection notices. Maybe they are still sitting in a bin lableled "maybe use someday", but I doubt it.

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Posted by rrinker on Monday, November 13, 2017 10:45 AM

 Too expensive is another one that's overused. MRVP is $2.25 a month. You can't even get a cup of coffee at Starbucks for that.

 ANd when people buy the latest gee-whiz loco on the day it's released in (of course) "limited numbers" instead of waiting a few months and grabbing one on eBay for a siginificant discount complain about $2.25 a month... 

Most of the locos I own are "limited editions" Says so right on the box. If I felt like changing the decals to get more than the 4 road numbers released for my prototype, I'd easily have 16 of them and that's skipping every eBay auction with ridiculous shipping amounts or bad feedback. I can STILL find them for sale, 15 years after they were released, and not always used. Skip ONE $300 loco and that pays for MRVP for ELEVEN years. Just holding off and later purchasing the loco for $200 pays for over 3 years of it.

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Posted by BRAKIE on Monday, November 13, 2017 10:58 AM

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I will. I think in part MR might have more limited resources so we as patrons and modelers should work on writing up articles for MR would you agree?

 

No..I know of one club that wrote a good article and furnish photos taken by a professional photographer and the article was rejected due to "low quality photos" after several tries and different photographers the club decided to give up.

MR says that but,I suspect only a few can pass their requirements.

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Posted by NWP SWP on Monday, November 13, 2017 1:04 PM

Looks like MR doesn't want help then huh?

Another problem with MRVP is although it's only $2.25 a month I have to pay at least $100 a month to utilize the service that or got to McDonald's every time I want to use it! Oh and I hate Mcdonalds food so...

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Posted by BRAKIE on Monday, November 13, 2017 1:34 PM

NWP SWP
Another problem with MRVP is although it's only $2.25 a month I have to pay at least $100 a month to utilize the service that or got to McDonald's every time I want to use it! Oh and I hate Mcdonalds food so...

A lot of fast food joints and some coffee shops have wifi for their customers use so,a cup of java and you're good..

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Posted by NWP SWP on Monday, November 13, 2017 1:48 PM

Mcdonalds is the local coffee shop!

But hopefully a Starbucks, Dunking Donuts or something will be built soon!

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Posted by wojosa31 on Monday, November 13, 2017 2:08 PM
Not every issue of MR (Or RMC, MRH etc.) appeals to me, but I do find something, just about every month. It's hard for any editorial staff to please everyone, all the time. Sure, the Video and unlimited access add ons cost money, but so does everything else. MR does a pretty good job serving a diverse market that includes some very picky people.
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Posted by selector on Monday, November 13, 2017 4:55 PM

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Looks like MR doesn't want help then huh?

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Well, there's 'help' and then there's 'help.'  Which one are we offering MR here?  The one they should probably refuse or the one some of us insist is really good for them?

I don't believe anyone makes promises that whatever we send them they'll gleefully clean up, improve, edit, restore, or otherwise render suitable for publication in a magazine of this nature.  Let's face it...as this discussion amply demonstrates...we're a critical lot.  We like things just so.  Trouble is, if our hosts ensured wide appeal to all types in the hobby, whatever we agree they should be, it would be 300 pages thick each month.  The annual subscription would be perhaps $40, not sure; t'would depend on how much advertising support they could get to cover the real costs. It might get stratospheric since there's only so much paid advertising in our small hobby to go around between this mag and the other two or three. Would you pay $49/annum?

I think they are walking a tough and fine line between keeping a good quality publication going and appealing to as static a client base, advertisers and purchasers/subscribers alike, as they can.  I also think they are fairly responsive since they seem to have listened to criticism they let run here about six years ago and have begun to include some more advanced how-to articles in recent years.

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Posted by BMMECNYC on Monday, November 13, 2017 6:21 PM

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Thanks for your remarks, but one things you may be forget, here we are speaking about the monthly paper MR publication.

Im not forgetting.  Turn to page 85 of Dec 2017 MR.  Next month:

Winston Salem Southbound

Scratchbuild a compact industry

Build a flagstop signal

Tune up a freight car

Model a Minnesota freight line... 

Marc_Magnus
And about the beginner table top 4X8 which is show up each year, a small layout which can go in a small room could be also show up with a different design like an along the wall or a small included island, this was somewhere the design of the San Juan Central if you remember.

Rice Harbor layout, does both circular and along the walls.  Clever of MR to figure that out.  

The last several project railroads have specifically been designed to fit in their van.  Will what you propose fit inside a standard sized cargo van?  

The San Juan Central was IMO, not a good track plan operationally.  This horse has been kicked..

San Juan Central was designed to be visually appealing.  It was to some, as has been discussed before, others not so much.  Im indifferent about the visual appeal.  

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If I follow you, there is no need again to have a MR paper publication, we need to go to the MR website.

Not what I am saying at all. 

What I am saying is that in the cases you specified, video or digital is a better educational medium than print.  

Typically most of what you read in MR can be found first on MRVP.  There is a lag time between when the project railroads are built and when they appear in the magazine.  They just figured out how to monetize the time spent building the project railroads.

I dont know if they will publish all of the WSS video pieces as print articles (probably will not do all), but hopefully some.  You can probably figure out about how many by going back to the previous project railroads and look at what how to articles made it to print that were also videos.

 

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Posted by maxman on Monday, November 13, 2017 7:41 PM

NWP SWP
Another problem with MRVP is although it's only $2.25 a month I have to pay at least $100 a month to utilize the service

No, you are not paying $100 a month to watch MRVP.  You are paying $100 prorated among all the other services you utilize as well.

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Posted by NWP SWP on Tuesday, November 14, 2017 12:04 AM

Maxman, If you read the rest of my post you would see that I have to pay 100 for Internet that will only let me watch maybe 20 minutes of video before it becomes somewhat like watching a slow motion version of stop motion animation.

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Posted by Enzoamps on Tuesday, November 14, 2017 2:09 AM

Hey RR-Mel

My wife can't read small print either, and we got her a Kindle e-book reader.  It saved her.  She can make the print as large as she wants.  Books cost like $10 instead of $30, and she can download books from the library for free.  yes current books.

I don't know if MR has a Kindle-ready format.

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Posted by rrinker on Tuesday, November 14, 2017 7:24 AM

 Not a Kindle format, they publish via Zinio. I've been all-electronic subscription for some time now. I was an early adopter of e-books, which is the main reason I did noot want a single task device like a Kindal. I have the Kindale app on my iPad, also the Zinio app as well as the MR Archive app (and Google Play Books and of course iBooks and several others, so I can read material in any format). Like Kindle you can zoom and enlarge text in any of them.

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Tuesday, November 14, 2017 7:33 AM

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The above is a tired and worn out refrane. 

Objection, just check issues of MR 20 years ago!

If you want MR to be like the MRRing mags in my country, where just about the entire content is made up by the editorial staff, than you have to be prepared to pay the prices they cost, which is $ 10+ per issue!

I don't have an issue with the content myself now vs. then.  For me thats a red herring.  I do get weary of people badgering other hobbyists to submit articles; it's not far from calling them lazy or something similar. In some cases hobbyists are trying to submitdoing just that and are being rejected due to too high standards, don't fit our style, or a host of other reasons.  So even if people do what you say, they lose.

In addition, many have busy lives and it isn't going happen.  That doesn't mean people can't express an opinion about what they want as a customer without being targeted by the "get off your lazy behind" forum members.  I've heard that argument all my life and it doesn't fly.  Objection also.  Don't forget the old adage we have in America, the customer is always right.  I still believe in it even though a lot of companies these days are dictating to us what we should like, buy or have to accept - not so.  We still can vote with our wallets as always.

That said, I haven't subscribed to MR in a long time but might get a wild hair if I get a special offer.  I'm finding the new version of RMC to be quite good now since White River Productions took over.

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Posted by rrinker on Tuesday, November 14, 2017 7:36 AM

NWP SWP

Maxman, If you read the rest of my post you would see that I have to pay 100 for Internet that will only let me watch maybe 20 minutes of video before it becomes somewhat like watching a slow motion version of stop motion animation.

 

 Where do you live? I need to add that to my list of places NOT to move to. I would be dead without high speed internet that truly is high speed (unless nothing else is available, cable is almost ALWAYS superior to DSL, despite the phone company's (mostly) false claims to the contrary.

 I COULD live in a place with 10 acres (plenty to build some inch and a half scale ride on trains as well as put up a building to house any size layout I would desire to build), however there are 1) no tech jobs there and 2) they consider 1Mbit DSL as "high speed" internet. So I stick where I am for now. Maybe by the time I retire they will have real high speed internet there. I would have and want high speed internet even if I completely left the model railroad hobby (ain't happening, I'm having too much fun, don't worry).

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Tuesday, November 14, 2017 7:44 AM

Randy, what do you consider "high speed" these days.  That bar has changed over time, thats for sure.  I'm planning to move and my options will be limited as it's further out into the boonies, but should have 25 mbps service.  Verizon is in the area but no FIOS so far.

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Posted by BRAKIE on Tuesday, November 14, 2017 11:50 AM

riogrande5761
I do get weary of people badgering other hobbyists to submit articles; it's not far from calling them lazy or something similar. In some cases hobbyists are trying to submitdoing just that and are being rejected due to too high standards, don't fit our style, or a host of other reasons. So even if people do what you say, they lose.

Jim,I was a member of that club and we used five different professional  photographers and still the article was rejected on the photos and those photographers wasn't free. IMHO all five  photographers  did their upmost with lighting,focusing etc. The article was written by a member's wife that had two articles publish in a gardening magazine and as far as the layout it was   top notch with lots of good cars and locomotives of the time (P2K,Atlas,Kato and Athearn).We even insured only the better detailed engines was in the photos.

I will always wonder why that article was rejected.

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Posted by NWP SWP on Tuesday, November 14, 2017 1:06 PM

I live in rural southeast louisiana near the Mississippi state line my area is "supposed" to be a "up and coming" area far as development goes. So high speed cable (not satellite) Internet should be on its way sometime in the future.

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Posted by Marc_Magnus on Tuesday, November 14, 2017 3:31 PM

Just an inside remark;

I just receive yesterday my december MR (I'm living in Belgium).

May be the MR staff has read this topic, because november and now december are great issues, I must admit.

There is no too basic articles and many excellet articles for the average modeler, yes not really beginners.

This kind of contents remember me the 80's contents of excellent quality.

I hope MR montlhly paper form will follow this kind of excellent publication.

When I read this topic this quality resume all the expectations of many of us.

This is just my feeling of course.

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Posted by Brunton on Tuesday, November 14, 2017 4:48 PM

How many rejected authors inquired about interest in their article before they prepared and submitted it? I think that's a key step. The best article ever written will be rejected if it doesn't fit the publication's needs.

I was published in MR W-A-Y back in the 90's. The article was called "Beyond Railscope." (How many remember Railscope?) When I got the acceptance letter, it was a real highlight of my year! The check was nice, too, but seeing my name in MR a few months later was the BIG RUSH! 

If I could do it, anybody can.

So, ask if they want an article like you want to produce. Sooner or later you'll hit on something they want, and they'll say yes.

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Posted by BMMECNYC on Tuesday, November 14, 2017 5:12 PM

Marc_Magnus
May be the MR staff has read this topic, because november and now december are great issues, I must admit.

Probably not this exact thread, but maybe one like it.

http://mrv.trains.com/series/mr-insider/2015/04/mr-insider-exclusive-printing-model-railroader-at-quadgraphics

 

 

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Posted by rrinker on Tuesday, November 14, 2017 7:58 PM

riogrande5761

Randy, what do you consider "high speed" these days.  That bar has changed over time, thats for sure.  I'm planning to move and my options will be limited as it's further out into the boonies, but should have 25 mbps service.  Verizon is in the area but no FIOS so far.

 

25mb shoould be plenty to strem Youtube or MRVP without stalls. But not if a bunch of other people in the house are doing the same thing. - couple of TVs using Netflix, someone streaming music, and then you try to watch a video - probably have some issues.

It's those 1-5mb DSL coonnections I can't justify calling high speed anything. It's insufficient for even standard def video streaming (ones you figure in the overhead and how much REAL throughput you get).

I happen to have 200mb down and about 15mb up cable. Hard to tell because it's all bundled in, but the internet part is about $50/mo. It started at 100mb down, and they've upgraded me twice for no additional cost. I get well over 200mb down going to their servers - real world testing against other networks I get more liek 150-180mb. Tested my new laptop on wireless and got about 20mb down, so even multiple users hitting max speed over wifi won't overwhelm the cable connection. I would be perfectly happy with 100mb, but if they are going to give me more without paying more, I'll take it.

I wouldn;t count on Verizon building out any more FIOS anywhere unless they happen to get a competitor in the area offering speeds better than their DSL. They stopped expanding the FIOS coverage area a couple of years ago. 

Funny thing is, everyone with an internet connection has been paying a surcharge for years to bring services to more rural area, but they roll out a 3mb DSL service (which is only 3mb if you live on top of the exchange) and call it high speed and compliant. Maybe 15 years ago.... 

                        --Randy

 


Modeling the Reading Railroad in the 1950's

 

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