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Rotary Coal Dumper in N scale 45 years old !!!! - Pictures reloaded

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Rotary Coal Dumper in N scale 45 years old !!!! - Pictures reloaded
Posted by Marc_Magnus on Wednesday, July 19, 2017 12:27 AM

Two years ago I give an answer about the existence of a model of a Nscale rotary coal dumper on a post on this forum.

A kit has existed, made more than 40 years ago by well know Nscale modeler , Mister Rick Spano and offered under the name of "State Streets Models".

This kit was reviewed in MR products at this time (if someone  can find the date of this review it would be nice; I didn't have the CD MR story).

 

This is a crude model made of pewter casting, details in white metal, some pieces of wood and styrene; this is a craftsman kit not really easy to build; it's very heavy and with not a lot of details; I had receive this kit from my late father, a long time ago, I beleive something around 45 years ago!!!! ( I'm now 58....my god!)

For some unknow reasons, I never build the kit.

I'm also in the way to construct a hight lift coal dumper in Nscale, there are some post on the forum about it.

All two years in Belgium there is a big train show, the next one come in autumn 2018 and I hope to show for the first time a module with the coal dumper.

Because the hight lift is in process and I must admit quiet difficult to do the delay is to short to include it on the future module, that's the reason I come back with the State Street Model

The State Street Models will be build on a module to be exibited at some show; in future I will include the module in my Nscale Maclau River.

The module will incude a small local port and facility and of course the coal dumper, this port will be named "Port Elisabeth".

My Maclau River is set in the begining of the forties, so steam was king like coal; the dumper will use steam to be operated like is real sisters of the time.

None such machine were build in reality in Europe except very little one for the coal mine service so I hope to have some sucess at these shows......

The first whish is to build an operating model; the base is correct and could be motorized, however it need a lot of adjustement.

I build the massive machine following the instruction, but when done it appeared that the clamps which hold the car on the bridge when rotating, didn't work correctly, so it was necessary to modify them and nearly made new ones.

I do them with brass and part of the original kit parts and following prototype pictures; new supports for the clamps were made in brass and modify  to admit four clamps to better hold the car when discharged.

These clamps work with gravity and weight, adjustement were time consumming.

I also made bracket support for pulleys in brass which will really operate the machine.

The structure was altered here and there to operate correctly and to allow a sufficient rotation of the car on the bridge.

The chute is entirely scratchbuild; I used the plan of the chute of the high lift coal dumper and build it at scale; the chute bottom is entierely made of brass with structurals details following the prototype; the sides of the chute are made in styrene and I use Evergeen shape to made details; the styrene is inserted and glued in a brass "U" channel wich is soldered to the brass bottom of the chute.

Many details will be added on the top of the chute to simulate all the machinery see on the prototype.

The small working overflow can move to be correctly oriented to the ship openning; it's made of brass, styrene and lead to add weight.

Brass support are scratchbuild to hold the future small cabin and the pulleys which lift the chute; the chute will be motorized to go up and down with cables like the prototype.

Coming in the process is a bridge structure which come above the rotary machine and will hold the motor of the chute, the water tank and counterweight for the chute which will go up and down with the chute like the prototype.

The ship, a small steam cargo build from a modified old Frog model,  will move from the quay like the small tug which help.

Even if this model is not really a replica of the real prototype I will try to do my best to make it convincing.

I will put more pictures as process go on.

Here are some pictures of the already parts which are nearly finished.

 

 

 

 New modified clamp

The new clamp  and in place on the new support

The scratchbuild part, overfow, pulleys bracket, new clamp, support of the cabin

The overflow of the chute 12mm x 8 mm x 23mm

Pulleys bracket, wheel is 12mm diameter

 Support of the cabin to be attached on the chute

The chute upside

The chute bottom in brass

 

 The chute and the rotary

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 19, 2017 1:20 AM

Marc,

None of the pictures you have posted show. You may have missed the discussion, but Photobucket have changed their policy. While you can still upload pictures to them for free, 3rd party hosting will now cost you $399 a year.

In fact, none of the pictures you have posted to forums or blogs show, even those you have linked before Photobucket changed their terms of business.

Most people I know won´t give in to Photobucket holding their pictures to ransom. They have migrated to other picture hosting sites.

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Posted by Marc_Magnus on Wednesday, July 19, 2017 4:22 AM

Hello Ulrich,

Yes I just receive a mail from photobucket about that; sad news for all the pictures I share and for the old ones too.

But question which hosting sites is appropriate for our use?

Thanks for your answer.

Marc

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 19, 2017 4:28 AM

Marc,

there are various (still) free hsting sites available. Flickr seems to be the most commonly used now, but there is a learning curve as how to embed pictures into a forum.

I am now using Imgur, which is easy to handle and much quicker than Photobucket ever was. Embedding a picture into this forum requires just a right click on the picture, select "copy graphics location" and paste  it into the box which opens when you click on the picture icon - that´s all.

 

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Posted by Marc_Magnus on Wednesday, July 19, 2017 7:57 AM

Sir Madog

Marc,

there are various (still) free hsting sites available. Flickr seems to be the most commonly used now, but there is a learning curve as how to embed pictures into a forum.

I am now using Imgur, which is easy to handle and much quicker than Photobucket ever was. Embedding a picture into this forum requires just a right click on the picture, select "copy graphics location" and paste  it into the box which opens when you click on the picture icon - that´s all.

 

 

Thank You Ulrich, yes very easy to use and enjoy now the pictures.

 

 

 

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Posted by snjroy on Wednesday, July 19, 2017 8:19 AM

You did great job on that kit... thanks for sharing.

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