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AHM HO Scale Alcoa Century Northwestern Engine 400

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AHM HO Scale Alcoa Century Northwestern Engine 400
Posted by LEOFUTURE on Thursday, June 15, 2017 9:36 AM

Hi the motor is getting worse in my AHM HO Scale Alcoa Century Northwestern Engine 400, it runs sluggish at best. I opened it up and it has the following structure, I'd apprecaite any advice on how to swap out the motor, seems to be open frame and secured by the chassis, any comments will be highly appreaciated, thanks!

 

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Posted by dknelson on Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:40 AM

The late Stan Mailer wrote a pretty sophisticated article about how to repower these AHM engines in the July 1981 MR.  But since then I think most guys have saved the shell and tried to find another Alco powered frame to put under it.  Others have just prefered to convert the AHM engine into a dummy, perhaps replacing the plastic handrails with wire.  By the way the actual C&NW engines were Alco C425s, not 424s, although the visual differences are and were slight.  And by the time those engines were made the C&NW had long since ceased to put the Route of the 400s on the sides of their locomotives. 

Dave Nelson

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Posted by LEOFUTURE on Thursday, June 15, 2017 2:31 PM

Thanks! I do not have access to the MR issue, is there a good way to remove the motor?

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Posted by SouthPenn on Thursday, June 15, 2017 2:41 PM

You might want to contact Northwest Short Line. They specialize in upgrades and special parts.

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Posted by 7j43k on Thursday, June 15, 2017 3:08 PM

LEOFUTURE

...is there a good way to remove the motor?

 

 

I don't have one, anymore.  So I can't look.

But.

These are some ways motors are held in:

by a screw (or two) from underneath--the fuel tank could obscure it/them

"glue"--usually kinda obvious, because it's some gluppy silicon stuff

rubbery clips--again, kinda obvious--the motor can usually wiggle around on them

trapped by parts assembly--like maybe two frame halves "grabbing" the motor

 

Good luck,

 

Ed

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Thursday, June 15, 2017 3:19 PM

Alcoa .... Aluminum Company of America.

Alco ... American Locomotive Company. 

GARRY

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Posted by Lone Wolf and Santa Fe on Thursday, June 15, 2017 5:05 PM

Are you sure it's not dirty wheels or lack of lubrication? Usually electric motors either work or they don't.

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Posted by richg1998 on Thursday, June 15, 2017 6:40 PM

I could not find a diagram for the loco.

Do a careful visual. Some diesels you have to pop the fuel tank off and see screws to remove the motor.

If the loco is sluggish, check the gearing on each end, assuming both trucks are driven. OLd grease or need lubrication. Does the loco hesitate at times, jerk a little? Could be pickups need cleaning.

Assuming your other locos run fine.

Rich

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Posted by csxns on Friday, June 16, 2017 4:25 PM

Had one back in the 80's and had a blown Atlas Roco motor i took off one fly wheel and it fit on the back shaft of that CNW locomotive been so long ago i forgot if it helped run better.

Russell

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