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Jeffrey's Trackside Diner, March 2017... Celebrating 1,000th edition of MR in Wisconsin; ... Everybody is welcome !

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Posted by angelob6660 on Sunday, March 19, 2017 5:47 PM

Hey diners,

Garry- Those are good pictures. If you go again you can have pre and post Big Bend.

Ulrich- I'm sorry that your miserable. I hope the sun opens that cloud.

ROR- I hoped you went to the laundromat that same day.

I watched the 2015 version of Cinderella on Starz yesterday. It was alright of a movie, I did enjoy it. I watched different versions over the years and this one is the top 5 list. I would made it a little more better. (When people say they want a more human approach.)

Nothing on the hobby. I'm looking at same Chessie System locomotives for my small layout. Including some Burlington Northern, Santa Fe, and probably start the G.N.O. Railway.

*Edit* Top of the page. I'll be paying for the tabs.

Modeling the G.N.O. Railway, The Diamond Route.

Amtrak America, 1971-Present.

Prototype railroads I model the Union Pacific, BNSF, Conrail and New York Central.

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Sunday, March 19, 2017 7:47 PM

 

LION'S FIRST RULE OF SPAGHETTI:

If it fits on the plate, then the plate is too small.

ROAR

The Route of the Broadway Lion The Largest Subway Layout in North Dakota.

Here there be cats.                                LIONS with CAMERAS

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Posted by cudaken on Sunday, March 19, 2017 8:11 PM

 Evening Diners

 Flo, Ed and I will have a Crown Royai with a Beer chaser please.

 Sort of Work Front. Felt like caboose today so I am glad it was slow! One thing that did put on Big Smile was because I had a Be Back (some one in a nother day that came back) Not because she bought I will add! She was looking at a close out only one left in the company king size set at a pretty darn good prices! While she was there another couple came in and started looking around. She said "I need to go to my car to make a call, I will be right back in!" Buyers are liers, she sat in her car for a minute or so, then drove off unlike she said she would do!

 Couple that came in while she was there, bought the Mattress she wanted at a higher prices (by $20.00) so it was gone. I loved the look on her face when I told her The couple that came in while you where here bought it after you went to your car! Laugh

 Ed Not a reason in the world to thank me for buying you fake internet beer! Maybe next year when I retire I can make the drive out to Ohio and give you a real (but cheap beer) that I drink. I like Milwaukee's Best Light. Same beer as Miller lite I will add.

 Der Far as Larry Mo he seems to be fine. No new heart problems and got the feeling and use of his hand that night. They think it was a pinch nerve.

 Later, Ken

 

 All most all on the hill can be lifted off I will add.

 

 

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Posted by gmpullman on Sunday, March 19, 2017 9:04 PM

Good Evening, Folks...

I'll take a heaping plate of that spaghetti that LION is offering, fresh grated Romano and an extra meatball, too, Brunhilda. You can put it on AngeloBob's tab! Big Smile Thanks! Maybe a little Chardon-Yay with that would be nice, too...

Richard, Yukk! Good thing this isn't ANT season. I hope you didn't go to the cleaners and tell them you wanted to get Doctor Pepper out of your underwear! Laugh

Ulrich, those howling wolves had the cats scampering out of the room! That might make a nice sound-effect for the layout. Around here when I hear the coyotes howling I know the chickens are getting nervous. Sometimes they travel in pretty large packs. Actually the fox do more damage than the wolves. We lost maybe two-dozen chickens to a fox last year.

I do hope there is some relief to your torment you are suffering. Angel

Mike! WOW, that's a LOT of red and orange! Even the lipstick! Thanks for posting that, pretty NEAT!

hon30critter
You may have guessed by now that I am a bit of a nature nut.

Dave, I agree—and share your interest in preserving and viewing nature, yes, even with the chicken predators, it is still great to observe the natural cycle of events outside Yes

cudaken
Ed Not a reason in the world to thank me for buying you fake internet beer!

Can't help it. My mom raised me to be polite, even if it IS a virtual beer—and a Milwaukee's Best, to boot Beer Sometimes I would get Olympian when I was in the mood for a "budget brew" These days it's Miller High Life and the occasional Heineken. (Hiney-KEN? Oh NO we won't GO there!)

cudaken
Maybe next year when I retire I can make the drive out to Ohio and give you a real (but cheap beer) that I drink.

You're always welcome for a visit! The caboose makes a comfortable "Cabin" and has all the comforts of home-away-from-home! After thirty days I'll have to kick you out, though. Fish and company go bad after that Ick!

Things are foggy and gloomy here in NE Ohio, too. Good day to stay inside. I'm taking a little hiatus from the layout for a day or two.

I have a big project to do using Adobe Photoshop. I have to get a slide show put together with about 2000 photos of the GE plant where I retired from. The plant is closing and folks have asked me to put together a little memorial for it.

Over the years I have collected thousands of negatives, slides and prints that were "abandoned" at the plant. I scanned them and returned the originals to a safe place. The roof was caving in on them where they were originally stored!

So, that's my project for the next few weeks. Ken Burns here we go!

Stay safe and healthy, everyone! Prayers to those who may be hurting...

https://www.nfb.ca/film/railrodder/

 

Regards, Ed

 

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Sunday, March 19, 2017 10:15 PM

Lion .... Thanks for the spaghetti. Dinner I hope we are not stranded in the Diner. Whistling

Ed ... Sorting through all of those pictures would be interesting. That photo is humorous. It sounds like you were busy with showing your layout too. 

Ulrich .... Thanks for the wolf video. We Diners care about You and Petra, and wish you the best.

Angel .... I'm not sure what you mean about pre and post big bend. I have only seen the MR&T one time. 

Ken .... Glad your friend, Larry is improving. That is a lot of foam board on your layout. I like the coal mine. 

 

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Posted by RideOnRoad on Sunday, March 19, 2017 11:17 PM

gmpullman
. . .I hope you didn't go to the cleaners and tell them you wanted to get Doctor Pepper out of your underwear! . . .

Bwahaha!

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Posted by gmpullman on Monday, March 20, 2017 12:23 AM

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Ed ... Sorting through all of those pictures would be interesting. That photo is humorous. It sounds like you were busy with showing your layout too. 

Hi, Garry.

Yep, neat stuff! The only downside to sorting these photos is that I am terrible at keeping files organized. So I have many duplicates in MANY different folders. Some of the original scans are huge, file-size-wise, and I want to be sure I don't delete anything irreplaceable. Most of the photos I have cleaned up using Photoshop but I wasn't always careful about how I named these files.

Here's what the plant looked like in 1936, three years after it opened.

That guy on the speeder should look funny, that's Buster Keaton of The General fame Smile Click the link to see the film. Several other great railroad films are on the National Film Board site, too.

Yes, layout visit was fun but exhausting for the host, and hostessBig Smile

ROR, Glad you got a chuckle out of thatYes

See 'yall later,

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Posted by Sir Madog on Monday, March 20, 2017 1:34 AM

Good Morning!

The weather has not yet improved, but I don´t feel as blue as I did yesterday. Maybe howling like a wolf did the trick!

hon30critter
Hearing and seeing the wolves brought a smile to my face and made my skin tingle.

Can you imagine how thrilled we were seeing and hearing a wolf pack on that meadow bordering our back yard?

Over nearly 1 1/2 centuries, wolves were thought to be extinct in Germany and it was safe for little red riding hood to pay a visit to her grandma in the woods. How wrong we must have been! Granted, the iron curtain was insurmountable even for wolves, who would not have made it through the mine fields and the concrete wall or special wire mesh fence used to prevent capitalist invasion, but once that was all gone, the wolves rediscovered their age old migration routes and are claiming back their territories!

Hiking in the forest has got a new thrill now! However, chances to ever encounter a wolf crossing your path are close to nil, as they are very shy creatures. They see you, but you don´t see them.

Chloe, coffee and a breakfast bagel, please!

Ulrich     

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Posted by gmpullman on Monday, March 20, 2017 5:52 AM

Happy Monday!

A little something to help pass the time...

Train 406, Fergus McDonell, provided by the National Film Board of Canada

 

Great "Behind-The-Scenes" drama of a busy railroad—  This is MY kind of railroadin' !

*To watch in better quality or full-screen, click the "Train 406" link to take you to the NFB site and watch there.

Enjoy...

Ed

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Monday, March 20, 2017 9:02 AM

Good morning, everybody .... 

Here is a publicity picture of Milwaukee Road Fairbanks-Morse passenger locomotives. FM was located in Beloit, Wisonsin, but these passenger lcomotives were built in GE's Erie, PA factory. They were called "Erie-Builts" becasue of that. 

The engines operated throughot the Milwaukee Road including Wisconsin of course. 

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Posted by Steven Otte on Monday, March 20, 2017 9:18 AM

der5997
YGW:

yougottawanta
DER - That makes sense. Our area was settled mainly by the Scotts, Germans and some Irish. I wonder from which of these "vitals" came from ?

…well, let’s see. Vitals has a Romance = Latin root, so I’m guessing not the German. Scots and Irish share a Celtic heritage – but the Scots would have been influenced by English linguistically perhaps more than the Irish. I think English, at any rate by the time of Dickens, and by inference prior to that had vitals = food. So I’m going to hazard Scots.

Vitals in the sense of "food" comes from Old English vittels, which comes to us by way of French vitaille, which comes from New Latin victualia, from which we also get the English synonym victuals. Both derive from Middle Latin victualis, from Old Latin victus, meaning "food," from the verb vivere, meaning "to live."

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Posted by CNCharlie on Monday, March 20, 2017 10:16 AM

Good Morning,

A sunny day forecast here with a temp of near 40F! The snow is definitely melting! I think it will be largely gone by next weekend except for the large piles left by the snowplows. 

Had a great weekend. We went down to Thief River Falls to visit our friends. The border crossing was very easy as usual. It is a small crossing with very low traffic. Even though it was early Saturday afternoon, there weren't any cars ahead of us or behind. The guards must be bored there as they always give Robbie a Milk Bone treat. He looks forward to getting one and is up and alert as soon as I roll down the window. We went out to dinner and had really great ribs at a nice restaurant that frankly is surprising to find in such a small centre. 

Ed, thanks for posting those NFB links. I have seen those films before but will view them again. 

Soon time to get ready for my Monday fitness class. 

Have a great day,

CN Charlie

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Monday, March 20, 2017 10:54 AM

Ed ... I watch the video of train 406. ... CN's HQ in Montreal was familiar to me because I had been to it numeorus times. ... Interesting comments by the narrator. At one point he was talking about the future of railroading and said it was nearly certain trains will one day have nuclear power. ... Of course, this video was in the era of 6-man crews which are now history. 

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Posted by last mountain & eastern hogger on Monday, March 20, 2017 1:43 PM

Dots - Sign

Mike,  That was my error.  I guess I didn't read your question fully.

I see now what you were talking about. Definately would strenghten a tall wall.

Sorry about that.

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Posted by hon30critter on Monday, March 20, 2017 2:43 PM

Sir Madog
Can you imagine how thrilled we were seeing and hearing a wolf pack on that meadow bordering our back yard?

Lucky so-and-so!!! I can imagine how thrilled you were! I would be beside myself! It is wonderful to hear that the wolf population is recovering.

In 50+ years at our cottage on the north shore of Georgian Bay I have never seen a wolf in person. We have heard them lots of times and I have seen numerous paw prints and scat piles but never the real thing. Interestingly, my dad had a big male walk out of the bush very close to him about 10 years ago. The wolf had to have known that he was there because he was upwind of the wolf, and he had a dog with him. The wolf stared at him for a couple of minutes then calmly sauntered back into the bush. My dad had been going to the cottage since 1938 and that was only his second sighting.

Take care Ulrich!

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Posted by mbinsewi on Monday, March 20, 2017 3:27 PM

No problem johnboy,  Big Smile  I was probably wrong about it being bridging, as Ed pointed out, it might be a fire code thing.

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Posted by yougottawanta on Monday, March 20, 2017 3:52 PM

Hey all

Flo bring me a cup of coffee, ( as I drag my tired behind to the booth ) by the way is it Friday yet ?

Ed thanks for posting teh photos they look great. I cannopt express how much I apprciate that.

Bridging - I read a few questions on the bridging. The answers given were correct for std frame construction. Bridge is used to perfom "firestopping" I installed it for other reasons and in this build it is not required being a shed/barn. I installed bridging to give the wall extra strength ( 9' tall walls on the Hobby side, 10' + tall walls on the garage side ) and just as importantly it will be a long while before I scrape enough cabbage together to finsih all of the walls off with drywall. The blocking will help keep the studs from twisting all over the place ! Firestopping is just an extra bonus in this case.

CN Charlie - Border crossing as in coming into the states ?

Steve - I am IMPRESSED ! Where did you learn all of that ? Thanks

Ulrich - Yes the construction is not as heavy as built in your neck of the woods. Part of the design is based on snow loads. Where I live we do not get much snow. On the rare occasion when we do you hear about a roof or two failing.  - Of course they are light until you have to move them by hand and then you thank God that they are not any thicker !

Ed Man that is fast growing vines ! Thye grew that much in three years on that building.

Ken - Glad your friend is doing better

Lion - LOL ! Plate to small ?

Mike - Mike is it me or is there an H where there should be a K ? In the name on the loco ?

Mr. B - The short answer to your question is "yes" many people install water in their barns especially if you have livestock.

ROR - Oh geez I had somtehing similiar happen to me except it was shaving cream

Howmus - Oh what a tease ! What was your clinic on ? Please share your clinic with us !

Johnboy - It is facing mainly North but slightly west. The direction was chosen based on site conditions. Not weather. I needed a location that first didnt block any of our other wonderful views, had a slope so we could build in a "walk out basement"...

Der - Amazing you have been busy ! Did you read Steves response on "Vitals" pretty intersting stuff ! Who would have known that it goes that far back !

Skipping the history qoute today. Just to tired.

TTYL

YGW

 

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Monday, March 20, 2017 4:10 PM

Speaking of wolves, the is a very rare pair of red wolves in the Nature Center in Land Between the Lakes where we are. the peopel there are trying to breed more of them because the species is nearly extinct. Everytime there are new puppies which grow up enough to release into the wild, there is a problem. They eventually mate with coyotes. Such much for being red wolves. 

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Posted by Steven Otte on Monday, March 20, 2017 4:17 PM

yougottawanta

Steve - I am IMPRESSED ! Where did you learn all of that ? Thanks

Der - Amazing you have been busy ! Did you read Steves response on "Vitals" pretty intersting stuff ! Who would have known that it goes that far back !
 

 

I learned it online. I knew it was a form of "victuals," so I Googled "etymology of victuals".

And almost all words go that far back. And farther. Except for the stuff Shakespeare coined and other neologisms.

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Posted by angelob6660 on Monday, March 20, 2017 4:36 PM

Afternoon Diners,

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I was talking about this picture. This small town is called Big Bend. Unfortunately it's not in the 1,000 issue. 

I do know Cody redone the area around the brewery and crossing grade in August 2014 issue.

Modeling the G.N.O. Railway, The Diamond Route.

Amtrak America, 1971-Present.

Prototype railroads I model the Union Pacific, BNSF, Conrail and New York Central.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Monday, March 20, 2017 5:34 PM

Mission accomplished on my clunking GP9.  I have two of these.  Years back, one of them started exhibiting the old cracked axle symptoms, so I swapped them out (Walthers provided the replacements free) but left the other as-is because, well, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.  Today, I got more axles and fixed it, same problem.

What was weird though was that when I got it back on the tracks, the headlight was working again.  I have no idea why, and I didn't even take the shell off to repair the axles.  Let's see how long it lasts....

It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse. 

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Posted by BigDaddy on Monday, March 20, 2017 6:02 PM

Very Sam Spade-ish.  Just started watching it and I am surprised there are no cigarrettes.  That engineer looks like he has had his share.

12:44 here comes the smokes

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Posted by JAMES MOON on Monday, March 20, 2017 9:06 PM

The 406 Train film must have been filmed in 1958 as that was the newest auto in the film.  When did CN stop running steam power.  I think we saw steam on the old Churchill line in either 57 or 58.

Nice weather here today.  With later sunset I am now getting two walks in with Adele, my Airedale.  Got to get in shape for summer trip.

Lion has the right idea on pasta plate size.  I miss the real long spaghetti for my youth.  Used to always have the stuff with a least two foot long noodles.  It's all in short grocery store boxes now.

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Posted by cudaken on Monday, March 20, 2017 10:13 PM

 Evening Diners

 Flo, Ed and I will have a Crown Royal with a Beer chaser.

 Work Stunk but I did get a nap in. Whistling

 Flo SoapBox box please. Becuse of my low income my wife gets a smig of SSI. We are talking between in a year maybe $400 to $700 range. Becuse I make commission my income is never the same from month to month. They base what they giver next month. Then they want the money back and I have to fill out paper work so she gets a waver and does not (means me) have to pay back there mistake!

 Mistake is not from me. Every month I fax in my pay stubbs like clock work. This month they had a new twist! SoapBox They want permission to get into my bank account from on LINE! HECK NO!!!!!!!!!!!!! I will give them every printed out statment they want! I am not hiding or lying about anything!

 Beides the principal, last thing I wanted to have is my checking account number. I hate the fact they have my wife and I SS numbers. Lets faces it, where will hackers go, to Groverment computers to get SS numbers to steal. Thrown in account number? Whistling One of the reason I hate using the VA for health care I will add. They where hit big time before I started using them.

 Head Cold Thanks to Meth Labs the new Sinus Pills have not help me! Yesterday it felt like I had a ballon inflated in my left sinus. Wife wanted another Corn Beef rost so I stopped on the way home. Right there next to the corn beef roast was Horseradish Hum, I wonder? Confused Spent $2.00 for it, got home and took a couple of good whiff's and the ballon was deflated! Big Smile I ate some as well and boy you can feel this stuff clearing out the nasal passages! Yes Plus it taste way better than Vicks! Smile, Wink & Grin

 Far as the Wolfs?

 

 I rather have a Irsh Wolfhound, that is Red Sonya, Tiff and myself. There is a rason man kind felt the need to breed Wolfhounds.

 Cuda Ken

 

 

 

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Monday, March 20, 2017 10:27 PM

Angelob6660....   thanks for the reply.  I wonder if Steven could help answer you. 

Steven.   ... if it is conveniant,  would you show a recent picture of Big Bend on the MR&T for Angelob6660 ? 

GARRY

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Posted by FRRYKid on Monday, March 20, 2017 10:34 PM

cudaken

 Head Cold Thanks to Meth Labs the new Sinus Pills have not help me! Yesterday it felt like I had a ballon inflated in my left sinus. Wife wanted another Corn Beef rost so I stopped on the way home. Right there next to the corn beef roast was Horseradish Hum, I wonder? Confused Spent $2.00 for it, got home and took a couple of good whiff's and the ballon was deflated! Big Smile I ate some as well and boy you can feel this stuff clearing out the nasal passages! Yes Plus it taste way better than Vicks! Smile, Wink & Grin

At least in my state, the stuff that could be turned into meth is kept behind a pharmacy counter. Ask and with ID and such it can be purchased there.

The other thing that the horseradish story reminded me of was one of my cooking blunders from a few years ago. I make Christmas dessert for Mom, Dad and me, That particular year I decided to make a double peppermint cake. I put crushed peppermint candies as well as peppermint flavoring in both the cake and the frosting. First attempt with using flavoring oils. You probably guessed it... I put too much flavoring in the cake. Used a full bottle when a half would have done it. The resultant item had about as much peppermint as peppermint schnapps. That flavor would clean out your sinuses. (From what Dad told me on the flavor and I did have to look up the spelling of schnapps. A word with a quadthong. If you don't know that English term, feel free to look it up.)

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Posted by mbinsewi on Monday, March 20, 2017 11:02 PM

YGW, it does kind of look like an H.  I had to go back and see what you were talking about.  If you look closely at the letter, the far leg of what looks like an H, actually has a bend towards the middle, to make the upper and bottom legs of the K. 

Not sure what type of print you would call that, a Milwaukee original, I guess.

By the way, nice layout / garage building!  The basement under the train room, for heating, storage, etc.?  Any plumbing? or do you just step outside while in train room?  Laugh

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Posted by mbinsewi on Monday, March 20, 2017 11:06 PM

Ed, great video.  I love watching those.  One question, when ever I click on page 11 of this diner forum, it goes right to your post with the video, not the top of the page.

I guess it means I better watch it again!  Laugh

Mike.

EDIT:  It just did it again after I clicked on post my reply!

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Posted by gmpullman on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 12:55 AM

Hi, Folks

yougottawanta
Ed Man that is fast growing vines ! Thye grew that much in three years on that building.

Yes! And eighty years later they are still growing!

This view is the same side of the building but looking in the other direction. I am standing in the very spot where the water tower stood. We (maintenance) would take chain saws to that stuff every few years but it just keeps coming back. English Ivy of some sort. Not Kudzu, but close.

Glad you are liking the pictures I am posting for you. I'm glad to help out.

Mike, That is happening to me, too. (Jumping to the film frame) There must be some http language in the embed link that makes it do that? Let's try to get to the next page so we can avoid it. Sorry for the inconvenience Embarrassed

Ken, I know what you mean about dealing with govt. web sites. Last year I took some voluntary layoff time so younger guys wouldn't get laid off. The completely IDIOTIC web site that is the Ohio Unemployment "service" requires me to type in my full SS number every time I log in Dunce

I can not understand! Every secure site I deal with has other encrypted log-in procedures, the unemployment site is like going back to the eighties!Bang Head

How about a photo to help take up space to kick us to the next page?

 

Hope everyone is well...

See you tomorrow,

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Posted by gmpullman on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 1:23 AM

mbinsewi
One question, when ever I click on page 11 of this diner forum, it goes right to your post with the video, not the top of the page.

I'm adding yet another reply to try to kick us to page twelve!

 

OK, 

So, has anyone ever been to the North American Prototype Modelers layout?

I follow them on the Flickr site and I enjoy seeing the photos there very much!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/napmltd/

Here is a link to more photos on their site:

http://www.napmltd.org/pictures.html

and I'll post another photo here to try to use up what's left of Page 11 Huh?

 

Empire Builder's "Lewis & Clark Pass" Pullman running on the Wheeling and Lake Erie back in 2009.

OK, maybe another video?

Hope that kicks us on to page 12...

Good Luck, Ed

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