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36' boxcars, new ones coming

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36' boxcars, new ones coming
Posted by rrebell on Tuesday, April 5, 2016 3:49 PM

I was excited to see new 36' boxcars come but then found out they were coming from Accurail, was hoping for RTR super detailed cars.Sad

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Posted by doctorwayne on Tuesday, April 5, 2016 4:10 PM

I'm glad that they're from Accurail, as I'll be able to afford them, even with the lousy condition of the Canadian dollar. Smile, Wink & Grin
I wonder, though, if this a late April Fool joke, as I don't see mention of them on Accurail's site.  In a discussion with Dennis Storzek of Accurail a year or two ago, I suggested that they offer a Fowler car, but he, only half-jokingly, called them a jinx, referring to LifeLike Canada's experience and the story outlined below. 
I'd still like to see the ones from New England Rail Service's Standard Car Co. division, though.  The dies, lost in a train wreck, were supposedly modular in design (much like Accurail's, where the doors, ends, and roofs can be of different types) and the supposed plan was to eventually offer all versions of the prototypes.  The dies were later recovered, but I've heard nothing of these cars again.

I would definitely welcome the Accurail version if they prove to be real, though.  I had to re-detail all of the LifeLike Canada ones, so doing Accurail's shouldn't be any more difficult.  Here's one with the overly-fat plastic grabs replaced with wire ones (custom-bent because they're a non-standard width), but not yet painted:

Accurail's cast-on grabs are among the best in the industry (and their Andrews trucks are as good as anybody's.  Thumbs UpThumbs Up

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Posted by jrbernier on Tuesday, April 5, 2016 4:31 PM

  I am looking at a flyer I picked up from Accurail at Trainfest last November.  They are indeed doing two versions of a 36' car(different ends).

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Posted by richg1998 on Tuesday, April 5, 2016 4:35 PM

Bitter Creek formely BC Models has started producing 34' and 36' laser cut wood cars. Don't seem to be as detailed though.

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Posted by tstage on Tuesday, April 5, 2016 4:36 PM

Wayne,

Go to the Accurail website and scroll down to the bottom of the page.  The '36 double-sheath wood boxcars - 4 different variations - will be coming out in late summer.

Lotsa of old road names included and much needed.  I'm going to try and pick up a few applicable ones for my own roster.

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Posted by tstage on Tuesday, April 5, 2016 4:53 PM

rrebell

I was excited to see new 36' boxcars come but then found out they were coming from Accurail, was hoping for RTR super detailed cars.Sad

I love Accurail kits!  Maybe not as nicely detailed as more expensive RTR rolling stock but they are easy to assemble, have good-to-very good detailing, and you can detail them further, as Wayne demonstrated above.  I am particularly fond of their 6- and 8-panel wood boxcars.

As more and more manufacturers have chosen to abandon kits and go the RTR route, I'm very grateful Accurail has chosen to continue providing good detailed rolling stock kits and at reasonable prices.  The last time I checked I believe 40% of my rolling stock was Accurail.  Great company and I will continue to support them as much as I can.

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Posted by zstripe on Tuesday, April 5, 2016 4:54 PM

Accurail, 1400 series 36ft boxcars:

http://www.accurail.com/accurail/1400.htm

Accurail, 1700 series 36ft boxcars:

http://www.accurail.com/accurail/1700.htm

Take Care! Big Smile

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Posted by G Paine on Tuesday, April 5, 2016 5:32 PM

rrebell
was hoping for RTR super detailed cars.

Accurail cars have a lot of detail for the price, much better than Athearn, etc. As far as not being RTR, they go together quickly, and for boxcars not that many parts to add. Good value for the money

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Posted by Guy Papillon on Tuesday, April 5, 2016 5:55 PM

Like Tom and George, and for the same reasons, I like Accurail cars. A lot of pleasure for little money. RTR may have more details but kits deliver more fun.

Wayne,

Do you know which one of those offerings would be right for detailing a CNR boxcar?

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Posted by b60bp on Tuesday, April 5, 2016 6:09 PM

I was very happy to see this news. Accurail makes really nice kits for a reasonable price. I was kitbashing MDC 36 footers and probably still will, but these new kits are more than welcome.

 

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Posted by SouthPenn on Tuesday, April 5, 2016 7:45 PM

And, Accurail are made in the USA.

I have a small fleet of their wood outside braced boxcars. 

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Posted by rrebell on Tuesday, April 5, 2016 9:23 PM

Their kits are easy to build, what I should have said is RTR and Intermountain detail. I ussually pay retail of about $25 for these Intermountain 40' boxcars at many places and would gladly pay that for 36' cars which Intermountain dose not have.

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Posted by doctorwayne on Wednesday, April 6, 2016 12:49 AM

Thanks for those links. Big Smile 

Not the cars for which I was hoping, but welcome nevertheless, as there are lots of useful roadnames.
The only 36' doublesheathed boxcar on my layout is this Southern Su class boxcar, built from an MDC kit:

I gave it a scratchbuilt roof and Hutchins ends, and re-worked the underbody a fair amount to give it a steel frame in addition to the truss rods, much like the prototype:

Southern had almost 15,000 of 'em.

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Posted by LensCapOn on Wednesday, April 6, 2016 8:50 AM

I have a very high opinion of Accurail products. The detail is just so good and uses the abilities of a simple casting to make models that should be fine on any layout. Some seem to dismiss them for not having free standing grab irons, and such. The rest know just how good their line is, and what a blessing the especially are for "runners". If I hadn't moved to N, I would be trying to pre-order 6 or so of them

 

If I go back to HO, that would happen quickly.

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Posted by kasskaboose on Wednesday, April 6, 2016 10:11 AM

Buildling from kits is perhaps something I can try later.  What a relief that the kits aren't too challenging  Do they come with metal wheel sets and knuckler couplers?

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Wednesday, April 6, 2016 10:29 AM

kasskaboose

Buildling from kits is perhaps something I can try later.  What a relief that the kits aren't too challenging  Do they come with metal wheel sets and knuckler couplers?

Sorry, but the ones I've got did not.

Kadees are a perfect fit for the coupler pockets, though, and Intermountain wheelsets slip right into the trucks once the plastic wheels are gone.

Thank you, Accurail.

I hope the guy with all the Accurail kits is at the train shows in the fall after these come out.  He's about 5-foot-5, and I like to support small businessmen whenever I can.

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Posted by Erie-diamond on Wednesday, April 6, 2016 11:30 AM

I just completed an Accurail NYC 40' wood stock car kit about two weeks ago. My first and was really pleased with it. I will definitely be building more. I tossed the supplied couplers for Kadee. As far as the plastic wheels go, they are fine for my needs, but I do understand the advantages of metal wheels. At this time my rr budget is devoted to getting the layout built. To my 3/4 century old fingers and eyes, these wonderful kits are a blessing.  Ken

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Posted by The Ferro Kid on Wednesday, April 6, 2016 12:32 PM

Accurail is a huge asset to the hobby.  You can take the kits to whatever level you want, and if your era includes, for example, USRA hoppers, you can assemble a fleet without going broke and renumber as needed with their decal renumbering sets.  I'm excited about the 36' boxcars as well.

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Posted by ACY Tom on Wednesday, April 6, 2016 12:35 PM

Has anybody discovered whether this 36' car has a specific prototype, or whether it's a generic model?

For that matter, same question about Accurail's stock car.

Tom

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Posted by tstage on Wednesday, April 6, 2016 12:49 PM

I generally use the Proto 2000 metal "ribbed" wheelsets for my Accurail rolling stock and they fit quite nicely into their trucks.

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Posted by hardcoalcase on Thursday, April 7, 2016 7:29 PM

As a period MRR-er, I'm thrilled to have a new line of 36 foot cars. Currently, the choices pretty much boil down to MDC-Roundhouse (so-so detail), wood craft (time intensive) or resin craft (time & $$$). So it's a challange to build a well detailed fleet.

Not knocking the MDC-Roundhouse cars, I own a fleet and love 'em despite the cast on grabs and the billboard series (XL look-a-likes, but with metal sides and wooden ends... oops!)  But, hey, you can pick up as many as you can carry for five bucks a copy at local train shows.  As a plus, those soft metal chassis make a great platform for scratchbuilt or kitbashed projects.

But hey Accurail... bring them on!!

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Posted by rrebell on Thursday, April 7, 2016 10:32 PM

As far as MDC cars, they came at one time with individual grabs, they were only staples but the holes were there and you could subsitute better grabs for the ones in the kit.

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Posted by doctorwayne on Thursday, April 7, 2016 10:34 PM

ACY

Has anybody discovered whether this 36' car has a specific prototype, or whether it's a generic model?

For that matter, same question about Accurail's stock car.

Tom

 
A cursory look through Richard Hendrickson's "Focus on Freight Cars, Volume II", revealed at least five roads with 36' double-sheathed boxcars.  These included Delaware Lackawanna & Western, Denver & Rio Grande Western, Missouri Pacific, and New Haven, although the book deals primarily with the doublesheathed USRA 40' cars and other similar 40'-ers of that era.
Before the introduction of the USRA cars, 36' doublesheathed cars would have been quite common, and since I'm freelancing, stand-ins for interchange cars are quite acceptable on my layout. Whistling
 
The fifth road with doublesheathed 36'-ers, shown in the book, was the Seaboard Air Line, but those were ventilated boxcars, and looked something like this kit-built car from WrightTRAK:
 
 
I have only one Accurail stock car and no prototype pictures of any Wabash stock cars, so can't comment on its fidelity-to-prototype for Wabash or any other particular railroad.

 
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Posted by ACY Tom on Friday, April 8, 2016 7:59 AM

Thanks, Wayne.

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Posted by Graham Line on Tuesday, July 11, 2017 1:13 PM

Accurail's 36-foot cars appear to be based on New York Central system cars. As for molded-on grabs, they are less conspicuous than some RTR wire grabs and can be made to "pop" with a light wash of black or dark earth tone.

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Posted by ATSFGuy on Thursday, July 13, 2017 5:38 PM

What particular road is MDC Roundhouse's version based on?

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Posted by doctorwayne on Thursday, July 13, 2017 6:55 PM

Here, hopefully, are links to assessments of Accurail's 36' doublesheathed boxcars, with regards to their prototypical accuracy (or lack thereof):

1300 series

1400 series

1700 series

1800 series

For some reason, the link to the 1800 series instead comes up as one to the 1300 series.
 
Longtime Members here will no doubt recognise the name of the author.

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Posted by CGW121 on Friday, July 14, 2017 11:54 AM

How long were they commonly used?

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Posted by Graham Line on Friday, July 14, 2017 7:16 PM

The PDF links Doctorwayne offers above pretty much answer that question. By the end of WWII the US freight car fleet was showing its age and by the end of the Korean War, much of it had been replaced.  Unless you are asking about a specific region or railroad, it's hard to give a specific answer.

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Posted by rrinker on Saturday, July 15, 2017 5:22 PM

 Sadly, they were all retired by my time period, and a MOW car wouldn't be on a foreign road as they would not be interchanged.

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