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Shaking the Box, Athearn hopper kit 1750

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Posted by bogp40 on Sunday, May 31, 2015 3:36 PM

BRAKIE

If you haven't already check the frame for warpage on a piece of glass as far as weight I used BBs with Elmers white glue to hold them in place on my old Athearn 34' 2 bay hopper cars since they was a tad to light for my taste..

 

Agree w/ Brakie, there are sometimes warpage at the frame/ draft gear frame ends. this along w/ the frames loose fit and mainly held by the truck screws. I will check for warpage, straighten (over bending if nec), and glue the frame in place. Most times the truck screws are a tad too long and not allow the truck screws to set the trucks properly. Securing the coupler box to the end "lattice" frame seems to work best for me. Been years since building these, the Bowser 70 and 100 ton also benefit from securing the frame to the body ends. Helps provide consistant coupler heights as well.

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Posted by dstarr on Sunday, May 31, 2015 9:26 AM

Ah yes.  I did photograph the wrong car.  With 28 of the little devils on the track in front of me I got mixed up.   Here is the car I meant to post.  Sorry about that.

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Posted by zstripe on Sunday, May 31, 2015 6:11 AM

My friend from the UK, asked me months ago if I could find Him a ''A'' side end for a car like this and He sent me this pic', titled: Athearn kit in Roundhouse box. I found the ''A'' ends for Him.

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Posted by "JaBear" on Sunday, May 31, 2015 5:31 AM

dknelson
......but I do not know the triple hopper version with those sides.  Interesting -- does anyone know when that was cataloged? 

I don’t wish to insult David, but has a Roundhouse 3 bay offset hopper kit ended up in an Athearn blue box? I’ve bought several 2nd hand unbuilt kits that weren’t in the right box.
My 2 Cents
Cheers, the Bear.Smile
BTW I’d be happy to have all three.

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Posted by jrbernier on Saturday, May 30, 2015 10:47 PM
I use #9 lead birdshot glued in the 4 discharge bays, with scale coal on top - looks like leftover coal and brings the weight close to the NMRA spec.

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Posted by BRAKIE on Saturday, May 30, 2015 6:06 PM

If you haven't already check the frame for warpage on a piece of glass as far as weight I used BBs with Elmers white glue to hold them in place on my old Athearn 34' 2 bay hopper cars since they was a tad to light for my taste..

Larry

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Posted by dknelson on Saturday, May 30, 2015 5:42 PM

I know the B&O quad hopper version of that kit (1756 on my boxes if I recall right) very well but I do not know the triple hopper version with those sides.  Interesting -- does anyone know when that was cataloged? 

And  yes they do need more weight, in fact even fully weighted there are sometimes tracking issues with those Athearn quad hoppers for whatever design reason. I think Adair shops makes a heavier weight for them that I might explore, but your idea of an added lead weight is an intersting (and cheaper) alternative.

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Shaking the Box, Athearn hopper kit 1750
Posted by dstarr on Saturday, May 30, 2015 4:02 PM

Finishing up the Long Coal Drag by building all the hopper kits in my unbuilt kit collection.  These last three are plain old Athearn blue box kits.  Same kit, three different paint schemes. 

This gets the long coal drag up to 28 hoppers and a caboose.  The AHM Berkshire still pulls them with ease.  I get a really impressive coupler slack runout on startup.  I still have a few more train set junkers that could be brought up to spec, but I think I will make coal loads for this batch first. 

The Athearn slope sheet weights need a bit of filing before they fit snugly into their pockets.  I put some silicone bathtub caulk under each slope sheet weight and then used a small C-clamp to press the weight tightly into place.  The cars come out weighing onlt 2.5 ounces whereas the NMRA standard called for 3.25 ounces.  I made additional slope sheet weights from sheet lead and glued then to the inside.  After a coat of dark gray auto primer on the inside of the hopper the lead weights are barely visible.  And they will be underneath the coal loads.

   These kits have operating hopper doors, which I ignore, I glued them all shut. Trucks received a coat of dark gray auto primer followed by some drybrushing of rust.  I think next time I will just paint the trucks with red auto primer. 

  I have a BMHS modeler's notes, which lists a bunch of things you could do to these cars, full brake rigging, train air line down one side, redoing the slope sheet braces, but I didn't do anything of them. 

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