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The Route of the BroadwayLION : the Railfan Window, Revised

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The Route of the BroadwayLION : the Railfan Window, Revised
Posted by BroadwayLion on Sunday, March 29, 2015 5:01 PM

ROAR

(Seems to work perfectly outside of the forum. TRY HERE.)

The Route of the Broadway Lion The Largest Subway Layout in North Dakota.

Here there be cats.                                LIONS with CAMERAS

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Posted by gmpullman on Sunday, March 29, 2015 5:58 PM

Nice work! I still have my subway token that I bought during my first visit and ride there in 1966. Do I have to send it to you now?

 

Mind The Gap...

oops, sorry that's for the tube

Ed

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Posted by tcwright973 on Monday, March 30, 2015 2:36 AM

Truly impressive... Your system is much larger than I thought it was from reading your prior postings. Looking forward to watching more videos in the future.

Tom

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Monday, March 30, 2015 8:29 AM

Cool!  What kind of camera did you use?

It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse. 

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Monday, March 30, 2015 9:04 AM

MisterBeasley

Cool!  What kind of camera did you use?

 

 

 

This One. It is a tad tall for my tunnels and a tad wide for my third rail placements, but that was nothing that a Dremmel Tool could not fix. I afix it to the front of a subway train with a rubber band.

RAOR

The Route of the Broadway Lion The Largest Subway Layout in North Dakota.

Here there be cats.                                LIONS with CAMERAS

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 30, 2015 12:14 PM

Lion - congratulation on this fantastic layout. You have really captured thge sights & sounds of a subway - down the scale litter on the track!

The watchful dispatcher - was that you?

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Posted by BATMAN on Monday, March 30, 2015 6:42 PM

BROTHER ELIAS LOOK OUT!!!!!!

I saw a monster sneaking around your subway. He was even pawing away at the track like a cat at 0910 of your video. I wonder if he is any relation to this guy????

Nice video by the way, I watched the whole thing.Movie I especially liked the high tech spray booth on the wall.Laugh

Brent

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Posted by crhostler61 on Monday, March 30, 2015 8:53 PM

Absolutely awesome! Great video...keep it up!

I continue to be intensely fascinated with your way of model railroading.

With all of the technology available in the hobby, I've decided to stay with DC and basic electronics. I run things with a pair of 35 year old higher output MRC packs through a very conventional block system. Over the summer, when I can get some extra time off the job, I want to get going on my signals. Aside from them having LED's and dropping resistors...the system will run by magnet and reed switches for block detection and relays tied through twin coil switch machines for the signals themselves. As much as possible, I would like to opearate the signals to NORAC indications.

So Lion...don't be a bit surprised if I look to contact you (down the road a bit) with questions about analog signal operations.

Mark H 

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Tuesday, March 31, 2015 9:28 AM

NORAC?

AMTK is NORAC; LIRR and MNCR are NOT. They have their own rules. Both sat in at the NORAC meetings when they were putting it together, both dropped out as not liking their stuff.

LIRR must run on NORAC rules west of Herald Tower, but not east there of.

AMTK must run on MNCR rules up the Hudson to Pokeepsie and east on the New Haven to New Haven, NORAC rules thereafter.

NYCT has its own rules which I tried to follow, but...

NYCT : RED =  STOP ; AMBER = Next Signal is RED; GREEN = Next signal NOT RED

For home signals the lower head indicates the route/permission at this point

RED over RED = Stop (Single red is never displayed, if one is red, both are red)

Something over YELLOW = Proceed on Diverging Route according to upper signal

Something over GREEN = Proceed on Main Route according to upper signal.

 

This is what LION tried to build. Him has 47 platform edges, each edge is a signal block, but the LION has placed many signal heads in each block, so a set of signals will not switch to red until the train is entering the next station, and then all of the signals behind the train will display red, and all of the signal in the previous section will move from red to yellow, and all of the signals beyond that will move from amber to green.

It would be far better for each signal to work independently, but what I have built already uses over 300 relays, and to enervate each signal separately would require 1000 more, pluss so much more work and wiring. The LION cannot do that, but if you have a smaller layout with only (say) 20 signals it is very doable.

LION used magnetic reed switches to detect the passing of a train, or at least the passing of a magnet glued to the bottom of the train.

Wiring diagram of system is posted on website of LION.

ROAR

The Route of the Broadway Lion The Largest Subway Layout in North Dakota.

Here there be cats.                                LIONS with CAMERAS

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