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[quote user="Midnight Railroader"][quote user="BuddyBuddyBoxcar"]. YES graffiti is illegal, I am not condoning that anyone go out and do it and break the law ....  I like graffiti, I think regardless of the law it should be done....  [/quote] Read what you wrote again.[/quote] OMG Enough! I just wanted to help educate about graffiti and not get not a debate about the legalities of it! For the 50th time GRAFFITI IS ILLEGAL!!!! I won't go out and tell someone to go do it, but at the same time, I like it, and I hope that it never ends!!!!  Graffiti has pretty colors, is mysterious, and takes a lot of balls to do! So I contradicted myself! Are you happy that YOU got a chance to take a cheeap shot at me too? hope that made your night!!!! petty petty petty. As a matter of fact, I LOVE graffiti! Graffiti is SUPPOSED to be illegal. Period. It is a rebellious artform. Legal graffiti is ironic. No matter how much I try to explain this, some people just won't get it.  But why am I being singled out and treated like a criminal on here? Like everyone is trying to take a shot at proving me wrong? If I were YOU guys, I would take this opportunity to LEARN from what I have to say. you guys have all the knowledge of railroading, I have knowledge of another part of RRing that you guys wouldn't even know WHERE to start looking.  And to those of you guys who do paint graffiti on your sets, you can't just take a photo of someones piece (a piece is what a writer paints on a train, it's short for "masterpiece", derived from old NYC graf from the 70's, 80's), change the colors up, and put it on a tottally different type of car.  The colors in a piece are constructed based on the color of the boxcar.  ALSO, here's a VERY VERY important part of graffiti, and it's something you guys should heed if you are going to paint and show off your models- Let's say that you want to paint a model boxcar that you have at home for your RR set. First off, you'd probably want to go do some research, ie. shoot some photos of some graffitti'd up train cars, correct? OK word of advice, some graffiti writers do not get along with others, and I am talking on a NATIONWIDE level.  I have seen some recreations where a railfan modeler will decorate a car with two writers names that absolutely hate each other, OR they will paint a model with peices that actual graffiti writers have painted that don't even KNOW each other. Word of advice: To graffiti writers, one side of a boxcar is broken up into roughly three parts: the left panel, the door, and the right panel.  When a writer paints a train car, that is considered HIS car.  Even if he / she only paints one panel, say for examples sake the left panel leaving the door and the right panel untouched, it is STILL his car.  He put in the work to paint that car, so he is entitled to the whole thing, and other writers are expected to find something else to paint, and this is well understood by writers who know what they are doing.  If there is a boxcar with say 2,3,4 or 5 different writers names on it, they know each other, or in most cases are in the same crew (not a gang). So when you paint a model car from looking at two different photos, you just might be putting two writers together that might not even know each other or in some cases don't even like each other. It makes no sense to do this.  So I would only paint exactly what you see that is on a particular boxcar taht you may have photographed.  You want your models to look as real as possible, right?  Well just figured I would help you out with that.  Oh and another thing, the exact colors that a writer paints on a car are pretty important too.  If someone goes out and paints a boxcar with his name in blue, outlined in black, with red and orange accents like bubble clouds, stars etc, those are the colors that he / she felt would work best on that car.  I suggest that if you paint someones artwork, do your best to keep true to the colors that you see. It's not really that big of a deal, but it would just make your model set more true to life.
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