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Yea Vic, I knew what the 88 stood for and I remember 73, once you said it, but the de and bt are probably new. Ham radio like model railroading has changed a lot. I can remember my dad lamenting, back in the 60's, about how the ham operators now wanted everything pre-built and ready to run. As a teenager he had built his first ham radio by wrapping copper wire around an round oatmeal box. The conversations I hear today on forums like this remind me of his conversations with me. Nobody want to do it the hard way anymore. In fact that was the demise of HeathKit, nobody wanted to take the time to build kits, they wanted to buy it, take it home and use it. Instant gratification. <br /> <br />Me, I'm a kit builder to a fault. As it stands the only item I have that wasn't a kit is the 25ton 3 truck bauchman Shay RTR I just bought. I've got at least 20 kits stacked ready to be put together with one more real large one on the way. That's the SierraWest Twin Mills at Deer Creek w/ all the extras. I keep them in the wrappers till I start on them that way if something happens they are still sellable!!! (groan) I'm having fun and that's what life is all about! (grin).....Walt
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