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I have a newer model Rivarossi Challenger and it's a smooth quiet runner and pulls 10 properly weighted cars easily on a 4% grade. I also have a new IHC Premier 4-8-2 that runs smooth but pulls poorly. 4 unweighted cars on the same grade, and thats when the track is perfectly clean and dry. Pulls 6 properly weighted cars on level track with little slippage on start up. I now use the IHC as a "helper" engine most of the time.
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