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[quote user="tankertoad70"] Well, my fave is still the ol' Athearn bluebox Fs.  The price is right, and removing/adding/modifying detail is fairly easy.  If I botch a project, I have found that acquiring a new shell is both simple and inexpensive.  The units with the heavy weight are nice pullers and smooth runners once broken in, and maintenance is simple.  I have a customized GN F7 that can pull over 50 forty foot cars up a 3.5% grade.  I also own a few Stewarts which I really enjoy for their variety of types of F units and smooth operation. I have even modified a coupla Stewart shells to fit Athearn drives. I do own an Intermountain kit, but have yet to get the puppy road worthy. Lotsa good choices out there depending on what one wants to invest monetarily.[C):-)] [/quote] I love the old blue boxes too and have quite a few of them. I did give a set of Warbonnets to my son when I picked up the Genesis set. I've sold all that I had with plastic sideframes (powered units that is). The electrical pickup is a rather fidgety one but soldering and eliminating the sliding mechanism makes them run better. The ones with the full weight are extremely heavy and I don't doubt that a single engine could pull 50 cars. I haven't picked up any of the Intermountain units but they do look nice. They just don't seem as readily available. I buy almost everything from ebay. Bill
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