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Thanks Charles, don't need a copy, but I really appriciate the offer. Was just looking for when the real ones were built which you answered with a better answer than was expected. I live not far from the Cleveland LTV steel mills were they use these engines alot. (or they used to now that they just shut them down to a hot standbye) There are verious short lines in the area that use them also. If you look around you will even find an occasional SW 2 around. But you don't get to talk to the crews enough to find out certian info. But I thank you for the info from you and I hope your New Year has "clear tracks". .....Jamie
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