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Uhmmmm....no Jeff i do not know what is meant by "helper service." Indeed, I clearly have displayed my extreme naivete; perhaps someone can also point me to a glossary as part of my beginning education. I appreciate the trouble you, Gregg, Roger Hensley and Gerald have gone to to help. I will attempt to make myself clearer (but as with mixing colors, I fear soon I will only acheive muddier). Simply put, i want to get as high as i can as quickly as i can (afterall, I am a product of the sixties!). If (and the IF is big) i am understanding everyones explanation re: grade to be one percent (for HO) is something like rising one inch per 40 inches of track length then I think I am enquiring about something else. Or, does it really take a little more than ten feet of track run to get an interesting length of freight up and over a train running below? Hope this makes it clearer; thanks again everybody for the help. And please don't let me tax your patience with me. Whit
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