passenger service

[ShaunCN]

Hi evryone.

I was wondering about passenger service with F9 locomotives. How did the cars get heat electricity ect. Do i need to buy a B unit or can I add a second A unit. I have 3 f9 a units at he moment all in HO scale. Some help is appriciated.

Shaun[:)]

[ShaunCN]

Hi evryone.

I was wondering about passenger service with F9 locomotives. How did the cars get heat electricity ect. Do i need to buy a B unit or can I add a second A unit. I have 3 f9 a units at he moment all in HO scale. Some help is appriciated.

Shaun[:)]

[Anonymous]

ShaunCN,

Very nice question. I believe the F9's had head end power (Heat, Electricity etc) I believe they were in the A unit. However it is very common for most service to be providied by a A-A, A-B-A, or even A-B-B-A sometimes even more B units were added. Or you can take a unit A-B or A-B-B etc.

The other thing to consider is "B" meant Booster. it did not have controls to be driven by itself.

That is about all I can think of, good luck with your units.

Lee

[Anonymous]

ShaunCN,

Very nice question. I believe the F9's had head end power (Heat, Electricity etc) I believe they were in the A unit. However it is very common for most service to be providied by a A-A, A-B-A, or even A-B-B-A sometimes even more B units were added. Or you can take a unit A-B or A-B-B etc.

The other thing to consider is "B" meant Booster. it did not have controls to be driven by itself.

That is about all I can think of, good luck with your units.

Lee

[Anonymous]

It varied by railroad. IE, the Santa Fe had F9s, however, they were equipped for freight service. Santa Fe had F3s and F7s for passenger and also had F7s that were dual purpose yet painted in the passenger warbonnet. On the Santa Fe, the A units didn't have steam generators, however, the B units had steam generators and also had controls for hoslters to use to move the units around in the yard, servicing facilities. The best way to determine where the steam equipment is, is to look at roof top photos of locomotives of the railroad that you plan on modeling.

[Anonymous]

It varied by railroad. IE, the Santa Fe had F9s, however, they were equipped for freight service. Santa Fe had F3s and F7s for passenger and also had F7s that were dual purpose yet painted in the passenger warbonnet. On the Santa Fe, the A units didn't have steam generators, however, the B units had steam generators and also had controls for hoslters to use to move the units around in the yard, servicing facilities. The best way to determine where the steam equipment is, is to look at roof top photos of locomotives of the railroad that you plan on modeling.

[dehusman]

As delivered, if an F9 was passenger equipped it would have a steam generator. Any electric needs would have been provided by on car axle generators and batteries. Post Amtrak, any F9's still in passenger service would have had the steam generator replaced with a head end generator or would have tapped off the main genertor. Some roads only had steam generators in the B units.

Dave H.

[dehusman]

As delivered, if an F9 was passenger equipped it would have a steam generator. Any electric needs would have been provided by on car axle generators and batteries. Post Amtrak, any F9's still in passenger service would have had the steam generator replaced with a head end generator or would have tapped off the main genertor. Some roads only had steam generators in the B units.

Dave H.

[Wdlgln005]

Other roads, like CN, D&RGW & Algoma Central had special heater cars for the train. They looked like B units but had boiler large enough to power a long train. Then almost any unit could pull the train if the weight required more HP than the normal consist. The regular Rio Grande Zephyr used 3F9's (ABB) to pull about a 7 car train but other units could pinch-hit if one of the F's was down or if pulling a longer train. At times, The Rio Grande Zepgyr could look a lot like the California Zephyr by pulling almost every stainless Budd car they owned.

On the AC, 2 GP-38's normally pulled the canyon tour train unless large passenger loadings swelled the train.

[Wdlgln005]

Other roads, like CN, D&RGW & Algoma Central had special heater cars for the train. They looked like B units but had boiler large enough to power a long train. Then almost any unit could pull the train if the weight required more HP than the normal consist. The regular Rio Grande Zephyr used 3F9's (ABB) to pull about a 7 car train but other units could pinch-hit if one of the F's was down or if pulling a longer train. At times, The Rio Grande Zepgyr could look a lot like the California Zephyr by pulling almost every stainless Budd car they owned.

On the AC, 2 GP-38's normally pulled the canyon tour train unless large passenger loadings swelled the train.