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[quote]QUOTE: Originally posted by lovintrains ouch at least you have a layout hoping to see a start date in my future[:D] gotta win over the parents any ideas [/quote] Tell them the hobby can teach you a lot of skills,including patience. I am sure your parents would not object to a model especially if you pay for it with your own money. Start with a structure or rolling stock. It will take some time to get the tools you need and more to do the job right. When your parents see you sticking to it they a be more open to your request. Good luck. Patience has been the hardest skill for me to learn. I am still not very good at it but I am getting better.
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