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[quote]QUOTE: Originally posted by nfmisso [quote]QUOTE: Originally posted by bangert1 ......Lionel started HO at least one time and maybe twice on the past and stopped after simular problems with quality. They did a GP30 about twenty or more years ago that looked great but ran like a slot car. I have some of those along with four of the GS4 Daylights that came out in 1976. They are nice looking but I could never use them. I think the molds went to Bachmann, but I am not sure about that. [/quote] For Lionel's 2nd (or was it third?) go at HO, they contracted with Kader Industries for the trains (GP30, GS4, etc). Kader owns Bachmann. When Lionel bailed, Kader re-issued the models as Bachmann. Both the GP30 and GS4 shells were far ahead of thier time in terms of accuracy and detailing. [/quote] Thanks for the information about Kader and Bachmann. I was aware that the same GS4 molds were used to make the Lionel and then the Bachmann, but the connection was unclear. You are correct about the quality of the shells being far ahead of their time. Too bad they did not work on the drive chassis. Thanks
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